On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Nathan Andrew Fain <[email protected]> wrote: > ... the half hazard rules protecting five eyes users. Apparently > as someone (terrorist or not) accessing Tor from the five eyes nations > you are filtered out. If you also happen to have looked at the linux > journal there is no filtering for five eyes so you would have been > tagged. This inconsistency shows how foot loose things were/are at the > NSA. > > This would fit with what Diane Roark said in her interview with > Frontline [1]. She protested the removal of strict filtering for US > Citizens and was buffed by every side. In that light it is clear the > US made the entire cache free game for one or many engineers without > anyone looking over their shoulder. A ship early fix later policy many > engineers love so much.
well said. any protections of the nature ThinThread would have made systemic and pervasive are instead left as ad-hoc, opt-in type filters upon what is so clearly full take (at the deep inspection point at least. i agree with Graham that it is far to expensive to mirror all traffic everywhere back to NSA) i also completely disagree with the legal interpretation of "a search" occurring only when a human analyst sees the intelligence gathered, and not when the intelligence gear gathers it. > In the end, with their budget, a 50% reduction in efficiency from a > regex would just justify a few hundred more distributed computing > nodes. The only person in the chain that may question this would be a > pro-surveillance tax payer that knows regular expressions. So it may > not indicate the age of the filters at all. i never considered the "hire more mediocre analysts for budget justification" angle, which is impressive, as i'm usually a pretty jaded individual ;) > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections-politics/united-states-of-secrets/the-frontline-interview-diane-roark/ you might the mix a friend made for the Tor hackfest a fun listen: two versions (which has better voice over?) https://peertech.org/files/Prodigy_-_Their_Law_-_Toggs_Diane_Roark_Remix.mp3 https://peertech.org/files/Prodigy_-_Their_Law_-_Toggs_Diane_Roark_Remix2.mp3 [ cache friendly plaintext http://207.198.103.187:8081/Prodigy_-_Their_Law_-_Toggs_Diane_Roark_Remix.mp3 http://207.198.103.187:8081/Prodigy_-_Their_Law_-_Toggs_Diane_Roark_Remix2.mp3 ] best regards, -- Liberationtech is public & archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at [email protected].
