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El lun., 28 de ene. de 2019 a la(s) 14:13, Sky (Jim Schuyler) (s...@red7.com)
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> En caso que no lo saben, hay una lista en español par derechos humanos y
> technologia por AccessNos llamada RedLatAm. Puede que este sea un lugar
> productivo para las discusiones sobre la situación nacional, los derechos
> humanos y la tecnología.
>
> In case you don't know, there's a Spanish-language list for( those who
> defend and promote) human rights and technology by AccessNow called
> RedLatAm [NetLatinAmerica]. You may find this to be a productive venue for
> discussions about the national [Venezuelan] situation, human rights and
> technology.
>
> https://lists.accessnow.org/listinfo/redlatam
>
> https://accessnow.org/
>
> Your note strikes me as heartfelt and I believe it helps me/us understand
> better the current Venezuelan situation. It also bears striking
> resemblances to processes taking place elsewhere in the world. And serves
> as a caution that outsiders, how ever well-intentioned, need to listen
> carefully before proposing actions or solutions. We all face this in our
> rights and technology work.
>
> —Sky
>
> Google translate does a tolerable job too - pretty darn close to how I
> read your note:
>
> I deeply regret that the situation in Venezuela is so complicated that it
> hinders [its] management by those who do not live it, even with the best of
> intentions. I will express myself in Spanish not because I believe that
> doing it in English is an an unfair burden but because my English isn't
> very good and I prefer to avoid "torturing" the group.
>
> When I saw the email in question I thought it was unfortunate, but I
> immediately understood that it is precisely because of the complexity of
> the situation in a country where for two decades we have sadly become
> accustomed to intelligence, espionage, counterintelligence and a mentality
> of our own. [a] military campaign applied to all spheres of civil life.
>
> I ask you for understanding along with your good intentions, it is not
> that we are especially susceptible, that this is indeed the case, but that
> we have been victims of a totalitarian regime that has remained in power
> thanks to making us see ourselves as enemies, dividing families, facing
> spouses, blood brothers in a literal way, which has caused a special
> mistrust that even makes it difficult to receive help to restore our
> weakened social fabric.
>
> I join those who are concerned about the economic situation in Venezuela,
> being that the crisis of hyperinflation and the emigrant diaspora are
> consequences and not cause of it, for that reason, I am so grateful for the
> help and attention that our crisis receives at this moment internationally,
> it is that attention that is tilting the balance in our favor to end this
> cycle.
>
> On Jan 28, 2019, at 7:44 AM, Jose Luis Mendoza Marquez <
> jluismend...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Lamento profundamente que la situación en Venezuela sea tan complicada que
> dificulta su manejo por quienes no la viven aun con las mejores
> intenciones. Me expresare en esta ocasión en español no porque crea que
> hacerlo en ingles sea una carga injusta sino porque mi ingles no es muy
> bueno y prefiero evitar esa "tortura" al grupo... 😹
>
> Cuando vi el correo electrónico en cuestión pensé que fue desafortunado
> pero comprendí de inmediato que se debe precisamente a lo complejo que es
> la situación en un país donde por dos décadas nos hemos tristemente
> acostumbrado a labores de inteligencia, espionaje, contraespionaje y una
> mentalidad propia de militares en campaña aplicada a todas las esferas de
> la vida civil.
>
> Les pido comprensión junto a sus buenas intenciones, no se trata de que
> estemos especialmente susceptibles, que así es en efecto, sino que hemos
> sido victimas de un regimen totalitario que se ha mantenido en el poder
> gracias a hacernos ver a nosotros mismos como enemigos, dividiendo
> familias, enfrentando esposos, hermanos de sangre de manera literal, lo que
> ha ocasionado un especial recelo que nos dificulta incluso recibir ayuda
> para restituir nuestro debilitado tejido social.
>
> Me uno a quienes les preocupa la situación social que económica en
> Venezuela, siendo que la crisis de hiperinflación y la diáspora de
> emigrantes son consecuencias y no causa de la misma, por ello, agradezco
> tanto la ayuda y atención que nuestra crisis recibe en este momento a nivel
> internacional, pues es esa atencion la que esta inclinando la balanza a
> nuestro favor para dar fin a este ciclo.
>
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> El dom., 27 de ene. de 2019 a la(s) 22:10, Sky (Jim Schuyler) (
> s...@red7.com) escribió:
>
>> There are any number of us who would be able to *read* a message in
>> Spanish, so I'd urge you to go ahead and post both in your most comfortable
>> language, plus translation because of the list's stated common language. I
>> subscribe to some ES+EN lists and find this kind of practice to be very
>> helpful. I wouldn't myself post (or answer you) in Spanish because of my
>> limited capability, but I'd be happy to read what you have to say in its
>> original language!
>>
>> I certainly can understand how it might feel difficult to express
>> subtleties in a second language — I have that problem myself.
>>
>> —Sky
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2019, at 12:10 PM, Cristina (99) <efect...@riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>> What i don't see as something friendly -and sorry about it- is to discuss
>> this terrible moment in English.
>> I know the list is in that language, but a lot of us are South Americans,
>> living this from Latin America, and having to translate our opinions (even
>> between us) to a foreign language. I feel it a bit weird, sorry again.
>> And this is sooo strong for us (as imply a key point to all the region)
>> that it's very difficult to express it in English. At least It's one of the
>> reasons I remain in silence.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Cristina (99)
>> On 27/1/19 17:24, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes wrote:
>>
>> I don’t think your post was “political editorializing” at all! And I’m a
>> Venezuelan citizen that tries to keep out of the toxic political talk in
>> and on Venezuela. Life is NOT politics, and history and facts transcend
>> ideologies, often used to mask or justify untenable and immoral social
>> realities maintained by governments and other power brokers.
>>
>> Regards / Saludos / Grato
>>
>> Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2019, at 2:07 PM, Yosem Companys <ycompa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> It has been brought to my attention that some of you felt that my email
>> on Reymar Perdomo was excessive editorializing on behalf of Liberation
>> Technology in favor of a political group against others.
>>
>> I'd like to apologize to all of those who saw my email in that light,
>> though in hindsight I understand how my email could be misconstrued in that
>> way. But I was only trying to make two points:
>>
>>    - First, that we forget that music can sometimes serve as a
>>    Liberation Technology; and,
>>    - Second, that the plight of migrants and refugees is an issue of
>>    concern for Liberation Technology.
>>
>> In this context, I'd like to reiterate Liberation Technology's bias. We
>> used to state our bias all the time on Twitter but not so much on the list.
>>
>> Liberation Technology's bias has long been that we believe in
>> rights-based pragmatism, that is, we believe in supporting the use of
>> technology (anthropologically defined) to foster public goods that protect
>> or advance the rights enshrined in the UN Universal Declaration of Human
>> Rights at http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/.
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>> Should you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to share them
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>>
>> Thanks,
>> Yosem
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