Right on!!! Many don't also realize what economic slaves they really are. So it is very Liberatarian for Iraq to be three countries and that is the Exit Signal for the American Ground Troops. Why does it take Two Years for the Current Administration to see this?????
--- In [email protected], "hrearden_hr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Slavey existed in both the U.S.A. and C.S.A. during the War of > Yankee Agression which was not a "civil war" because it wa between > two different countries. Also war isn't civil anyways. The Cold War > was probably the most civil as far as "wars" go. > I do not believe that slavery would exist today had there not been a > war between the U.S.A. and C.S.A. In 1860 in what at the time was > still the South of the U.S.A. only 1 in 8 Blacks were slaves. > Slavery was in decline. Had the C.S.A. won the war over time the > C.S.A. would have become industrialized and there would have been > less need for slavery. Only a small percentage of the population in > the 18th and 19th centuries were slave owners. One of the wealthiest > slave owners in the U.S.A. during the 18th century freed all of his > slaves upon his death. That man was Robert Carter. > > Given that the LP Platform has a plank that states that party > recognizes the right of political secession, it follows that had > there been an organization like the LP in 1861 it would have > believed that the people in a state within the U.S. had a right to > secede from the U.S. and had such an organization been around in > 1776 it would have believed that the people in the 13 American > colonies and parts of FL which was a British colony in 1776 also had > a right to secede from England. BTW, in the 1760's Spain traded part > of FL for Cuba with England and thus FL was a British colony. > $ --- In [email protected], Deus Ex Machina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > as far as I know the civil was was not "defensive" war, Look what happened to the Yankees when they tried to sail up the Red River and the people of Louisianna and Texas killed most of them in a Defensive Action. >and if the > north > > took the current libertarian view that only retaliatory action > takes place > > then blacks would still be slaves today. you could define > > slavery as "offense" but thats just playing with words. > > > > the south was just minding its own business, just like sadaam was > just minding his own > > business. Not even close. The few blacks that wanted to be slaves where provided jobs more so than many are today. They really did not have to stay and work for Slave Wages just as many especially in the big cities do not do so today but make their living in other ways not usually considered legal. Many blacks in the south developed or brought with them from Africa valuable skills and were treated with respect especially in the Charlston S. C. area. > > > > for that matter with the current libertarian platform you wouldnt > have a > > president you would still have the queen as head of state. > > > > the reality is that the US has been aggressively exporting liberty > > and freedom, both internally and externally since its birth. > > > > Vic ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <font face=arial size=-1><a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hjcq8i5/M=362329.6886306.7839369.3040540/D=groups/S=1705060682:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124882754/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992 ">Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back!</a>.</font> --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
