No. Bush is a Moderate to Conservative Republican. Always has been. Always will be.
NeoCons are folks like Kristol, Barnes, Wolfowitz, et.al. --- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually the most prominent NeoCons in America are George W. Bush, his > cabinet, and Dick Cheney. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > who are the two most prominent "NeoCons" in the United States at the > > moment? > > > > Bill Kristol and Fred Barnes, right? > > > > I don't think either would endorse much if any of the things who > > write below. Certainly both would vomit at your suggestion that > > they are "Trostky-ites." > > > > And I believe I've heard them both say a nice word about > > libertarians from time to time. I could be wrong, but I think > > Barnes has been a guest at Cato even. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "David Macko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > This information is from Ron Paul's speech Neoconned of July 10, > > 2003. For the entire speech see: > > > http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2003/cr071003.htm > > > Here are the seventeen defining characteristics of neocons. > > > > > > More important than the names of people affiliated with neo- > > conservatism are the views they adhere to. Here is a brief summary > > of the general understanding of what neocons believe: > > > 1.. They agree with Trotsky on permanent revolution, violent as > > well as intellectual. > > > > > > 2.. They are for redrawing the map of the Middle East and are > > willing to use force to do so. > > > > > > 3.. They believe in preemptive war to achieve desired ends. > > > > > > 4.. They accept the notion that the ends justify the means- that > > hardball politics is a moral necessity. > > > > > > 5.. They express no opposition to the welfare state. > > > > > > 6.. They are not bashful about an American empire; instead they > > strongly endorse it. > > > > > > 7.. They believe lying is necessary for the state to survive. > > > > > > 8.. They believe a powerful federal government is a benefit. > > > > > > 9.. They believe pertinent facts about how a society should be > > run should be held by the elite and withheld from those who do not > > have the courage to deal with it. > > > > > > 10.. They believe neutrality in foreign affairs is ill advised. > > > > > > 11.. They hold Leo Strauss in high esteem. > > > > > > 12.. They believe imperialism, if progressive in nature, is > > appropriate. > > > > > > 13.. Using American might to force American ideals on others is > > acceptable. Force should not be limited to the defense of our > > country. > > > > > > 14.. 9-11 resulted from the lack of foreign entanglements, not > > from too many. > > > > > > 15.. They dislike and despise libertarians (therefore, the same > > applies to all strict constitutionalists.) > > > > > > 16.. They endorse attacks on civil liberties, such as those > > found in the Patriot Act, as being necessary. > > > > > > 17.. They unconditionally support Israel and have a close > > alliance with the Likud Party. > > > > > > For life and liberty, > > > David Macko > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/VpgUKB/pzNLAA/cUmLAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
