>>> "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Like counting on the Libertarian Party to ever
>>> elect anyone to any public office of significance
>>> that will bring us liberty in our time?
>>>
>>> Look, none of us is getting any younger.
>>> 
>>> I once believed in the dream of the Libertarian Party. 
>>> I bought into it, hook, line and sinker.  I was
>>> the hardcore of hardcore LPer in the 1980s. 

I don't think you were.

>>> Ed Clark, Ron Paul, Karl Hess, Jim Turney,
>>> Andre Marrou all the way mann!  

>>> Then Marrou lost his seat in the Alaska House. 

The LP is a lot less about particular candidates than the Reps and 
Dems are.

>>> The LP kept losing elections all over the place.

Just as Reps and Dems lose elections all over the place.

Yes, we've been naive. We've expected that everyone will see the 
light and that, e.g. the Socialist Insecurity Abomination and income 
extortion would surely be eliminated by the time we were 25, and if 
not then, by the time we were 28...

We were naive.  We didn't know what sorts of advertising generate the 
most bang for the buck. We didn't know how much a successful campaign 
would cost, or how much it would cost us to get candidates on the 
ballot in light of Rep/Dem rigging of the election system. We blew 
what seemed to us like huge wads of cash and energy on ineffective 
campaigning.

We've run people lacking credentials for offices that the electorate 
expects candidates to have certain kinds of credentials. And then 
when someone does have a little bit of a credential, we run him/her 
for president instead of state legislature or county commission, 
where, if we could all cooperate and pool resources, s/he'd have a 
decent chance to be elected.

We've also compromised, backing iffy candidates we thought might 
generate more coverage from the media, backing candidates who had 
somewhat sort of libertarian leaning positions on 1 or 2 issues, 
etc., to our humiliation and long-term political detriment.

But backing non-libertarian candidates promises no probability that 
it will move us in a libertarian direction.






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