nonsense, Anna ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: objective vs subjective Re: [Libertarian] Re: Socialism/Capitalism of the Author
You didn't "communicate" with your fetus regardless of what you say. Also one does not need to be a pregnant woman to know that a fetus has no "desires" or sentience. It doesn't matter if a "mother" will say we're right. They have no say in the matter other than for their own body; nor do you, nor do I, nor does anyone else. Nobody is giving anyone "carte blanche" to kill unborn children. There is no such thing as an "unborn child" or a "preborn human". One must be born to be a child. Whether or not a fetus COULD live outside the womb is irrelevant. Whether or not it has a brain is irrelevant. As long as it's in the body of a person it has no rights. There is no exception. Also your claims that men are making the decision is laughable. The only person who makes the decision is the person in which the fetus resides. Only the pregnant WOMAN has any legitimate say in the matter and nobody else on earth. So it's not men making the decisions about abortion, it's women. If you don't want to have an abortion, nobody should be able to force you. But you also have no say in whether or not someone else does and your claims of murder hold no water. --- In [email protected], "Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark, were you ever pregnant with a child? If not, how can you even try to express such opinions regarding whether a baby has any desires before it is born.I think the biggest problem with the abortion issue is that men want to decide about it. > As a woman and a mother I can tell you that I had communicated with my son very well during my pregnancy. > Annd there is no mother in the world who will tell you that you are right. > > Nevertheless I am bothered by your desire to give women a card blanche on killing her unborn children at any time during pregnancy on a pretext that this is a libertarian choice. I consider it a permission to murder. Once a brain of a fetus is formed, it has mind becoming an individual, and a subject to protection under criminal law. ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian SPONSORED LINKS E government Libertarian E government strategy Libertarian party E government procurement ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Libertarian" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
