John,

 

>From my angle, we have the problem of extremely high conviction
rates right now. I don't believe we would see MORE guilty
verdicts from "vote-your-conscience" jury nullification. Frankly,
I don't think such a fear is reasonable regarding jury
nullification. Just how would a conviction-nullification work? I
mean, who would see that as nullification, when that's the status
quo? Or am I simply exaggerating? I don't think so. 98%
conviction rates are representative of the tragic state of
courtroom juries today. You think educating juries about
nullification would actually increase them? I don't. I think it
would drastically reduce them - and in effect castrate unjust
legislation. AFAIK, there is no other realistic mechanism to
reverse longstanding unconstitutional legislation. 

 

I agree with your position on law and authority in principle. But
even if constitutionality and authority were argued before the
jury, the jury could not vote down law or fire authority figures.
Technically, the law would still remain law and the asshole
authority figure would still remain the asshole authority figure
during deliberations, leaving jury nullification as the only
option. Surely you are not putting your faith in the judge to do
the acquitting (after hearing arguments of unconstitutionality
and/or non-authority)! I see no alternative but to place the
power squarely back in the hands of the people - and I see
education about nullification as a very good way to do that.

 

-Mark

 

 

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There is in the ways positions are stated. One branch prefers the
language, "Vote 
your conscience," and only seeks instructions to jurors that they
have the right 
to judge the law as well as the facts in reaching a general
verdict. My branch 
argues that formulation seems to approve of jurors ignoring the
law, or deciding 
not to enforce laws they don't like, or even convict a "bad guy"
even if there is 
no statutory foundation for it, or if the rights of the accused
has been violated 
in the course of the investigation, prosecution, or the trial.

My branch argues jurors have the moral and civic duty, like a
good judge, to bring 
a verdict according to law, even if they disapprove of the law,
but also to be 
able to decide what the law is and what it is not, and to detect
when the charge 
is not authorized by a statute, or a statute by the applicable
constitution, or 
when the court lacks jurisdiction, or when the rights of the
defendant have been 
abused. There is no way they can do that unless they are either
experts in the 
law, or hear all arguments of law made in their presence, read
the briefs, and 
have the use of a good law library -- the same things the bench
needs to do his 
job. Many cases involve legal issues on which none of the
participants are expert, 
so it is a learning experience for everyone.

> You say my signature needs some clarification. Trouble is, as
> signatures go, it's already too long. Yet, I would like to see
> your briefest clarification added.

Argue law before jury or acquit.
Presume nonauthority; prove authority.

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