I certainly acknowledge that there were some people in Afghanistan who were ALLEGED, by questionable accusers, to be 911 perps.
The Taliban so-called 'enablers' were maybe a defacto govt in Afghanistan. In that role, they were promoted and maintained by the USA govt. In other words, not only did NOT represent the people of Afghanistan, were in fact IMPOSED by US taxpayer subsidy; right up to 911 The USA generalized destruction of life, limb and property in Afghanistan was an insane act of barbaric temper tantrum! -Terry Liberty Parker http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the vote of support Grant. > > The statement though, does not apply to Iraq as there was not > credible threat from Iraq, but rather a false claim of credible > threat, wich was used to support the action. In my proffesional > opinion, Iraq was more about a family vendeta than nuclear or > biological weapons, and it was not about Oil either. Just because > one claims some one is a credible threat, does not make them one. > > To use Terry's graffic metaphor... Iraq would have been a man in the > corner that no one liked, then George came out and said hey that guy > in the corner used to carry a knife in his pocket, I bet he is > planing on buying a new one and he might stab us with it some day if > he does buy a new one, plus I hear he beats his family he must be a > real bad guy lets lynch him! > > I disagree with Terry on Afghanistan though. Afghanistan was > providing safe haven for individuals who did pose a credible threat, > the knife had already penitrated the skin. A case can be made for > that agression, it can be argued against yes, but its not so clear > cut that I can believe you realy can not see how it could have been > viewed as a credible threat. > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" <txliberty@> > wrote: > > > > A crazed killer enters the room and begins slashing people > > with a big knife; then turns to you... > > > > Must you wait for him to cut into you BEFORE you shoot him? > > > > Someone you know to be somewhat vicious and short tempered, > > loads his pistol, shoots a cat, then takes slow deliberate > > aim upon you from just a few feet away.... > > > > Do you think you have no right to 'pre-emptivly' defend yourself? > > > > I don't see how Iraq, or even Afghanistan, were 'credible' > threats! > > > > > > -Terry Liberty Parker > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Grant@" <grant.yahoo@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Wait a minute, when did the "credibly threatening to initiate" > get > > > added? Or was it always there. > > > > > > Does that mean that the USA was justified to attack Iraq? This > > sounds > > > like a slippery slope! > > > > > > A saying that Americans need to hear more of is: "Sticks and > Stones > > may > > > break my bones but words will never hurt me." > > > > > > Also, I do believe that uncoolrabbit can become a Libertarian > > without > > > agreeing with everything on a particular website or another. > > > > > > Regards > > > Grant > > > > > > www.Grant4Congress.com - come join us, the momentum is building. > > > > > > > > > Terry L Parker wrote: > > > > > > >Can you just see it.... > > > > > > > >The ideal civilizing principle > > > >that can be held in common > > > >by virtually ALL persons... > > > > > > > >It is a truce! > > > > > > > >But, it requires that to it, ALL are consistent! > > > > > > > >To the extent that there is a 'truce' on any person > > > >initiating, or credibly threatening to initiate, > > > >physical assault against the person or > > > >justly held possessions of any other person, > > > >there is 'Liberty & Justice for ALL' > > > >aka UNIVERSAL Libertarianism > > > > > > > > > > > >AlsoSee- Aggressors Promote LIMITED 'Libertarianism' > > > >at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/38717 > > > > > > > > > > > >-Terry Liberty Parker > > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > >VoiceCall 1.512.462.1776 > > > > > > > >every Sunday 6:30pm (central) to ? > > > >I host informal disscussion > > > >to which all are welcome > > > >who want to consider ideas & issues > > > >of Liberty & Justice for ALL > > > >(aka libertarianism) > > > > > > > >in Hickory St Grill at 8th & Congress, Austin TX > > > >Look for me, MyPicAt http://profiles.yahoo.com/txliberty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > >Yahoo! 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