A world with out borders could be a great thing, but a rational, logical Libertarian knows that it is a goal that must be worked for over time, and that they are at this moment real as concrete barbed wire or firearms.
While they say ignorance is bliss, it is not productive and will not lead to greater liberty to claim ignorance of such things that do exhist and carry meaning. So a border in a non consentual goverment is not meaningless to all Libertarians Terry, as a true Libertarian recognizes the meaning in both the good and the bad, they are meaningless to the Anarchist. --- In [email protected], "terry12622000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think Paul is using a big assumption on social contract.This right > to tax by the government or by a non contracted group of people is a > large assumption without the necessary facts to prove the social > contract, it is a historical broad assumption that fails. Yes there > were towns and community formed by either a single property owner or > the unamious consent of all the property owners. Today these type > communities are still forming they are called intentional communities, > restrictive coveant communities, coop apartments, co housing projects, > with the single owner we have hotels, mobile home parks private towns ( > like near Disney World and owned by it) and apartment complexes as > examples but most people do not live in such consentual communities, > mant towns in the past that were formed by property owners have since > been co-opted by the county, state or federal government and there is > no evidence that all areas were a consentual community to begin with. > So a border in such a nonconsentual government is meaningless to a > libertarian.--- In [email protected], <boyd.w.smith@> > wrote: > > > > > This case is absolutely no different than those wishing to bring > goods > > > into America with the stated condition of entry and remaining being > > > the condition that you pay a tariff to pay for entry. > > > > > > You may own the lemons and the ship, and your front yard, but you do > > > not own the dock. The dock is within the borders that "We the > people" > > > own. If you want to cross the borders owned by "We the people", you > > > must pay a toll. > > > > And in my analogy I do own the dock as it is on my property. > > > > BWS > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
