--- In [email protected], "terry12622000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Those of Us that want a principled party may have no reasonable > choice but to split. Really it would be better the reformers could > get more votes I don't doubt that and they may advance liberty and > reduce government, the purist will get more votes because they would > finally be voting with a party of > principle. > Look The Rasmussen Poll showed around 15% of voters are > libertarians, Classic Liberals, Constitutionlist and libertarian > leaning people are even more, yet most of these people vote for > others including the libertarians and those who say they are > libertarian, many if not most don't vote but a big percentage of them > would if they had someone to vote > for. > The other best option to a split is to pull away the endorsement > of anyone running for office or holding office if they don't follow > the party line via the platform and the oath, if the reformist > candiates don't like it and are not willing to follow it then they > would have no other choice than to move > on. > Personally I think most of the reformers are honest people but I > suspect there is either government interest and or other powerful > interest behind these reform efforts. It really appears A German > neoliberal think tank with a lot of cash was behind the take over of > the party in Costa Rica ( go to the Free State Project board for > discussion and links on this take over).--- In > [email protected], "David Macko" <dmacko@> wrote: > > > > I still think that it would be better to avoid a split until > > we reduce government to some level where our differences > > are meaningful in relation to a real political campaign. > > > > For life and liberty, > > David Macko > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "terry12622000" <cottondrop@> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:33 PM > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: New Libertarian Party -> American > Libertarian > > Party > > > > > > > David I disagree, I think the numbers of votes will improve with a > > > divorce between the reformers and the purist. At least the > reformers > > > can't blame the purist anymore if they fail. It probally would be > > > better for the reformers to join the RLC or the Democrat counter > > > part, or as a independent ( which is the way many states list all > > > non Republicans and Democrats anyway). If the reformers really > think > > > they have the talent to get votes and advance liberty with their > > > gradulist polcy then they have the chance to prove it, when the > fail, > > > they can't blame the purist and we can tell them " see there we > told > > > you it would not work". If their policies make improvements we can > > > always tell them with fair certainty," yeah but far from > > > enough". > > > I actually think the purist will get more votes to without > the > > > reformist candiates and office holders because those who want a > > > pricipled party and candiates that follow those principle will > have > > > nothing to do with the LP the way it > > > is. > > > To give one example Tony St. James has a fairly new show on > WGOW- > > > fm talk radio 102.3 in Chattanooga, Tennessee on saturday > mornings, > > > this morning he said he approves of the LP priniciples and the > > > platform but he gets the impression the party goals are no better > > > than the Democrat and Republican Parties goals get people in > power in > > > Washington so they can tell others what to do. --- In > > > [email protected], "David Macko" <dmacko@> wrote: > > >> > > >> It is highly unfortunate that there appears to be a split in the > > >> Libertarian Party of Florida. This cannot benefit anyone except > > >> enemies of liberty. I hope that all of you can get together and > > >> straighten out this problem. Remember Benjamin Franklin's > > >> admonition that we must all hang together or we will all hang > alone. > > >> > > >> For life and liberty, > > >> David Macko > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Franklin Perez" <perezfranklin@> > > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:04 PM > > >> Subject: [Libertarian] New Libertarian Party -> American > > > Libertarian Party > > >> > > >> > > >> > Hello Folks: > > >> > > > >> > I have just gone to the website of the Florida Division of > > > Elections at > > >> > the > > >> > http://election.dos.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/ComHtml.exe? > account=42227 > > >> > hyperlink > > >> > and noticed that there is a new Libertarian Party that has > > > registered with > > >> > the Florida Division of Elections. > > >> > > > >> > It's chairman is none other than James Coakley, an individual > > > that has had > > >> > his share of problems with the Libertarian Party of Seminole > > > County > > >> > Florida > > >> > (LPSC) as well as the Libertarian Party of Florida (LPF). It's > > > initials > > >> > are > > >> > LBT. As you all know, James Coakley has been helping me out > with > > > my run > > >> > for > > >> > Florida State House (District 33) by distributing some of my > > > campaign > > >> > literature. (Note: You may read about my problems with the LPSC > > > and LPF by > > >> > going to the > http://www.geocites.com/fperez2006/why_npa_eng.html > > >> > hyperlink.) > > >> > > > >> > I have spoken about this new political party with James > Coakley. > > > Has has > > >> > stated to me that this new party, called the American > Libertarian > > > Party, > > >> > shall have a Libertarian political philosophy but that its main > > > purpose > > >> > shall be to actively run and encourage candidates to run under > > > their party > > >> > label so long as they hold Libertarian political principles. > This > > > attitude > > >> > is in sharp contrast with the Libertarian Party of Florida, > whose > > > main > > >> > goal > > >> > seems to be to not want to run or encourage ANY political > > > candidates to > > >> > run > > >> > under its banner. > > >> > > > >> > I think that this new American Libertarian Party will be a VAST > > >> > improvement > > >> > over the current Libertarian Party of Florida because it will > not > > > stand in > > >> > the way of its candidates from running for political office. It > > > will > > >> > actually ENCOURAGE Libertarian-leaning people to run under its > > > banner and > > >> > will not set up roadblocks to keep them from running. > > >> > > > >> > So folks, if you are disgusted with the political nonsense and > > > manure that > > >> > is ocurring with the Libertarian Party of Florida and wish to > > > join a REAL > > >> > Libertarian party, please consider joining the American > > > Libertarian Party. > > >> > > > >> > I would like to congratulate James Coakley for having the > > > conviction to > > >> > set > > >> > up this new political party. > > >> > > > >> > Sincerely, > > >> > > > >> > Franklin Perez (No Party Affiliation) > > >> > Florida State House Candidate (District 33) - Year 2006 > > >> > Libertarian Minded and Independent! Not Beholden to Party > > > Politics! > > >> > http://www.geocities.com/fperez1776 > > >
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