If your theory is correct, why do they keep coming here?
More importantly, why do we let them in?
Terry: I would be very interested to read a copy of Yahoo's
prohibitions on free speech.I suspect other members of our
group would also be interested.

For life and liberty,
David Macko

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:54 AM
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: I LOVE THE DUTCH!! Check this out!!!


> Steven, YOU ARE
> SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Wrong.
>
> For Steven's comment that it's all about our interventions in the
> past in the Middle East has just ROYALLY PISSED ME OFF.
>
> Steven, you and I have met in our past life.  We've spoken on the
> phone.  I find you to be a well-meaning and sincere libertarian.
>
> WHY IS IT THAT YOU AND OTHERS LIKE YOU PERSIST IN THIS IDIOTIC CLAIM
> THAT THE REASON THE MUSLIMS HATE US IS BECAUSE OF OUR FOREIGN
> INTERVENTIONS IN THEIR COUNTRY???
>
> Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
>
> It has little if ANYTHING to do with that.  I've lived in the Middle
> East (9 months in Bahrain).  I speak Arabic.  I live in Houston,
> which has a large Arabic population, and I work RIGHT SMACK DAB IN
> THE MIDDLE OF HOUSTON'S LITTLE SOUTH ASIA (Pakistanis, Jordanians,
> Moroccons, Egyptians, et.al).
>
> They hate us for our Culture, plain and simple.  It's all about
> Sex.  We get it and they don't.
>
> Young Arab men, particularly non-wealthy Arab men, have little if
> any access to women.  They are extremely envious of American men who
> get sex whenever they want.  They watch our movies, they watch MTV,
> they watch Britney Spears, and their hormones rage.  And rage they
> do against Americans who have easy access to sex AND Israelis with
> their topless beaches, hot sweaty nightclubs, and Co-ed drinkfests
> til the wee hours of the morning.
>
> Steven DID YOU NOT READ ABOUT THE MURDER OF THEO VAN GOGH IN THE
> NETHERLANDS A COUPLE YEARS AGO?  Did that have ANYTHING at all to do
> with "American troops stationed in Saudi Arabia?"  Hell no!  That
> Murlim murdered Van Gogh because of a film he made supporting rights
> of women in the Middle East.  Did you not witness what happened in
> France back in October with the massive riots by Muslim Youth?  Did
> that have anything to do with "Americans invading Iraq?"  Hell no,
> it had everything to do with Muslim youths being shunned by young
> French women, and lack of job opportunities for them so that they
> could gain more wealth where they could possibly attract young
> French women.  Do you see what's going on all throughout Europe with
> Muslims clammering for bans on topless beaches, ends to legalized
> prostitution, and tough drug laws that would send all drug dealers
> and users to jail for long sentences?
>
> Steve, give up this absurd notion that the reason the Muslims hate
> us is because of our interventionist foreign policy.  IT'S ALL ABOUT
> SEX AND CULTURE.
>
> Imo, any sane libertarian would see that and oppose these authoritarian 
> elements among Muslims with all their 11th Century horrobly repressive 
> views with all their strength.
>
>
> [ModeraterNote: I edited (re-phrased) the above sentence to comply
> with, not only this forum's policy, but Yahoo's prohibitions too.
> As originally submitted, it was a call for some sort of American
> 'Jihad' against ALL Muslims.  -TLP   ]
>
> --- In [email protected], Cory Nott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Some years ago my then wife and I knew a nice young woman - very
> pretty, very kind at heart. She had alot of personal troubles and
> did not pick her men well. Well, the last one she picked got her
> into heroin, and one night while out on a drug deal with him they
> were both brutally, and, for her, slowly murdered by a drug dealer
> they were attempting to buy from.
>>
>>   Did that change my mind on the drug war? Did I suddenly decide
> that all drugs are intrinsicly evil and that we should throw more
> money and more resources and more lives at the drug war? Should we
> put to death all dealers and perhaps even hard core users? Hell no -
> if we didn't have our drug laws, there would be no tremendous
> profits to be made by the most violent in our society and my friend
> might well be alive today. Even if she were hooked on heroin, at
> least it would be cheap and clean and not the dangerous stuff that's
> cut with all sorts of chemicals and kills people over time.
>>
>>   I feel the same way about 9/11. Why is it that the terrorists
> are attacking us? Is it because they "hate freedom"? No, it's
> because of western intervention in the Middle East over the last 100
> years. I will grant that I find Islam somewhat worrisome in it's
> treatment of non-Muslims and that we should be on guard against
> religious extremism and any demands that Islamists or others put on
> our legal system.

>> Eric Dondero Rittberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   So Steve, question.
>>
>> Would your attitude be different if you had had a friend or
> relative
>> who died in the Twin Towers, at the Pentagon, or on the 4
> airplanes
>> on 9/11?
>>
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