What? Who? I compliment a friend and I deserve moderation? Perhaps this isn't a worthwhile forum after all.
Or is it the "reasonable, intelligent and articulate" labels you object to? On Mar 27, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Terry L Parker wrote: > Jim, your attempt to twist the conversation from an examination > of 'views' into an excuse for labeling people will land you > on imposed moderation. > > Stop it now! > > > -Terry Liberty Parker > Owner/moderator, > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > > > --- In [email protected], Jim Syler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Scott is hardly what I would call a "radical libertarian." > Especially >> now that he's a Republican and seems to have softened his message a >> mite. Who's been saying this? Not people in the LPI, I hope. Scott > is >> reasonable, intelligent, and articulate. Kudos to him for all he's >> done. I sincerely hope he runs again. >> >> j >> >> On Mar 27, 2006, at 5:04 PM, john_teschky wrote: >> >>> The word I'm picking up from the voices that may or may not be in > my >>> head is that the Bludorn won the regular GOP vote in the primary. >>> Rumors have it that, especially in the Lake County/Buffalo Grove >>> precincts (where Mathias shares ethnicity with many voters, and > where >>> he was Village President years ago), *groups* of people were > walking >>> into the polling places towards the end of the day saying, "I > want the >>> ballot with Mathias" on it (as opposed to asking for a Dem or GOP >>> ballot). Since Bludorn only lost by about 555 votes, it is very >>> conceivable that it was these last-minute voters, not even sure > of the >>> party to which Mathias belonged, who swung the election. >>> >>> This information helps put to bed the misguided notion that > Bludorn's >>> "radical" libertarian views sunk his campaign. It appears as if > the >>> GOP regulars liked and supported his uncompromising libertarian >>> message, but Mathias's personal network, built up over decades of >>> professional politicking, swung the election. In a few months, > after >>> the polling data has been interpreted, this rumor can be better >>> validated. >>> >>> All of this is too bad for Bludorn, and for the libertarian > movement >>> in Illinois. However, from my arrogant point of view, it serves > the >>> GOP right. If they want the taxpayers to pay for their selection >>> process (primaries), then they will suffer defeats such as this. >>> >>> Guns and Dope, >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> --- In [email protected], "terry12622000" <cottondrop@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are these people real libertarians or would a better term be > Classic >>>> liberal?--- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero > Rittberg" >>>> <ericdondero@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Wrong. Absolutely wrong, as a matter of fact. >>>>> >>>>> Respected long-time Libertarian activist from Palm Beach, Phil >>>>> Blumel says that there is absolutely one supporter of >>>> libertarianism. I believe his name is Bob >>>>> Collins, or something like that? Recently elected. Attends LP >>>>> meetings, and is formerly affiliated with the Republican Liberty >>>>> Caucus. >>>>> >>>>> (I may be wrong on the name. I'll check into it.) >>>>> >>>>> Phil also says that besides him, there are a few others who are >>>> very >>>>> sympathetic to libertarian ideals, and they will be meeting with >>>>> these legislators a couple weeks from now at the capitol in >>>>> Tallahassee, to discuss various issues. >>>>> >>>>> FYI, there have been libertarian supportive state legislators in >>>> Florida for many years now. Past libertarian supportive > legislators >>>> included: Dick Graham of Ormond Beach, Mark Foley of Palm Beach, > Tom >>>> Feeney of Orlando, and a couple more in the Orlando area (can't >>>> recall their names at the moment.) >>>>> >>>>> Oh, and if memory serves some guy from Ft. Walton Beach too. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- In [email protected], "hrearden_hr" <HRearden@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There are no libertarians in the FL legislature. >>>>>> >>>>>> $ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- In [email protected], "Edward J. Williamson" >>>>>> <ejohnwilliamson@> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> quote: "BTW, there are at least 20 hardcore libertarians >>>> serving >>>>> in >>>>>>> state >>>>>>>> legislatures around the country right now as Republicans, > many >>>>>>>> affiliated directly with the Libertarian Party, in states >>>> such >>>>> as >>>>>>>> Michigan (!!), California, Florida, Washington, Oregon, Mass, >>>>> NH and >>>>>>>> Alaska." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am familiar with the names of California's state legislators >>>>> and I >>>>>>> have not found one that is a Libertarian or has Libertarian by >>>>> their >>>>>>> political designation. Not one is a Libertarian. How about > some >>>>>>> names? You can't be a Republican and a Libertarian, or a >>>>> Democrat and >>>>>>> a Libertarian no more than you can be a conservative or a >>>>> libertarian >>>>>>> or a liberal and a libertarian. You are either a Libertarian > or >>>>> you >>>>>>> are not. It is that simple! End of story! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are absolutely zero libertarians serving in state >>>>> legislatures >>>>>>>> or in any other position while in the Republican party. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [ModeratorNote: I slipped up by letting Eric's comment thru, >>>>>>>> so you get to rebut this once. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> WHO iz or iz not a libertarian is OFF-topic in this forum >>>>> while >>>>>>>> WHAT is or is not libertarian is always ON-topic here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -TLP ] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" >>>>>>>> <ericdondero@> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sounds like you're sympathetic to the libertarian >>>> Republican >>>>>>>>> strategy. You may wish to check out the libt. GOP movement >>>>> at >>>>>>>>> www.rlc.org or over at Yahoo Libertarian Republican group. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> BTW, there are at least 20 hardcore libertarians serving in >>>>> state >>>>>>>>> legislatures around the country right now as Republicans, >>>>> many >>>>>>>>> affiliated directly with the Libertarian Party, in states >>>>> such as >>>>>>>>> Michigan (!!), California, Florida, Washington, Oregon, >>>>> Mass, NH >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> Alaska. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- In [email protected], "john_teschky" >>>>> <rockroller@> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Scott is as Libertarian as you, Paul. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> He accomplished much running as a Republican. He stuck >>>> to >>>>> his >>>>>>>>>> Libertarian positions, yet still managed to earn the >>>>>>> endorsement of >>>>>>>>>> the local Republican party. If he continues his hard >>>>> work, he >>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>> very well be, eventually, the Ron Paul of Illinois. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> His switch to the GOP also played a big part in shaking >>>>> the >>>>>>>>> Illinois >>>>>>>>>> LP out of it's dysfunction and begin it's move back >>>>> towards >>>>>>>>> effectiveness. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Scott accomplished much for libertarianism in this area >>>> by >>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> a Republican. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Assuming he actually WAS a libertarian (which is almost >>>>> never >>>>>>>>> the case >>>>>>>>>>> with people YOU describe as libertarians), he sold his >>>>> soul >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> hopes >>>>>>>>>>> of winning and he still lost. What did he accomplish >>>> by >>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>>>>> Republican? NOTHING. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero >>>>> Rittberg" >>>>>>>>>>> <ericdondero@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In case you guys hadn't heard yet, Libertarian Party >>>>> member >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> current Republican Scott Bludhorn lost his GOP >>>> primary >>>>> race >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> incumbenet 54 to 46% in the Chicago suburbs. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Though, Scott did increase his vote substantially >>>> from >>>>> his >>>>>>> 9% >>>>>>>>> showing >>>>>>>>>>>> as an LPer in 2004. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's hope his runs again for the seat in the future. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> "The ground of liberty is to be gained by inches, and we must be >> contented to secure what we can get from time to time and eternally >> press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men > to >> do even what is for their own good." >> – Thomas Jefferson >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila. ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
