You can't be serious, Hitchens was a Trotsky communist turned neocon, Pipes is a Hawk and Sullivan is a not a neocon but has flaky Socialist type hawk he would fit real well with Hillary Clinton. You might as well put her name on there, hey Bill said he was a libertarian, so I guess anyone can claim to be a libertarian. Na, honestly, they may have become libertarian but it is not a good idea testing them by running them for president on the LP ticket giving there recent background. --- In [email protected], Eric Dondero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [ModeratorNote: this post is NOT a cause for > an orgy of name calling and people labeling! > > The author appears to me to have made a resonable > attempt at identifying a pivotal LIBERTARIAN issue. > > How CREDIBLE is the threat and what has/is its > provocation? > > Libertarianism's defining principle: each person is > free to do as chosen by their own free will EXCEPT > initiate, or do a credible threat to initiate, > physical force against the person or justly held > possessions of another. > > AKA: non-aggression principle, physical aggression > truce, reciprocal comprehensive physical autonomy > for each and every person, and so on. > > SeeAlso: What's at the Heart of What Libertarians are Selling? > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/30419 > > -TLP ] > > > > There's a new political movement rising. It's a coalition of real world libertarians who are sick and tired of the ambivelence on Muslim extremist of pacifist anti-War libertarians, and others who have been outside of the libertarian movement for years, unable to come aboard repulsed by the radicalism of the movement's anti-War wing. > > What is a "Dennis Miller libertarian"? > > From a New York Times profile of the comedian Dennis Miller, 15 January 2004: > > Mr. Miller is also not a traditional conservative. "I've always been a pragmatist," he said. "If two gay guys want to get married, it's none of my business. I could care less. More power to them. I'm happy when people fall in love. But if some idiot foreign terrorist wants to blow up their wedding to make a political statement, I would rather kill him before he can do it, or have my country kill him before he can do it, instead of having him do it and punishing him after the fact. If that makes me a right-wing fanatic, I will bask in that assignation." > > Mr. Miller said he remained socially liberal. "I think abortion's wrong, but it's none of my business to tell somebody what's wrong," he said. "So I'm pro-choice. I want to keep my nose out of other people's personal business. I guess I fall into conservative when it comes to protecting the United States in a world where a lot of people hate the United States." > > > Who are the "Dennis Miller libertarians" who have been outside of the libertarian movement? > > Jonah Goldberg of National Review > Christopher Hitchens, Author & writer for GQ > Jesse Ventura > Ted Nugent > Gene Simmons > Andrew Sullivan, Blogger & Columnist > Daniel Pipes > Jonathan Rauch > Tammy Bruce, Radio Talk Show Host, Feminist & Commentator > Larry Elder > Neal Boortz > Steve Emerson > Bruce Bawer, NY Times Travel Writer & author of the new book "While the West Slept; the rise of Muslim radicalism in western Europe" > > In the coming months activist "real worlder" libertarians will work to bring these fine gentleman and ladies into the libertarian coalition. > > Watch out Non-interventionist libertarians who preach ambivelence in the face of rising Muslim violence against the West and our Western values of tolerance, sexual liberation and individual liberty. > > You're about to see a HUGE MAKEOVER FOR THE LIBERTARIAN MOVEMENT!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Libertarian Republicans > > Fiscally Conservative, Socially Tolerant & Pro-Defense! > > Dondero is a US Navy Veteran, former Libertarian Party National Committeeman, fmr. Senior Aide to US Congressman Ron Paul R-TX, and Founder of the Republican Liberty Caucus. He is Editor of the Libertarian Republican Political Report, which covers insider news on mainstream libertarians running for political office. To subscribe send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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