The liberty train analogy is flawed. While it's true that the Liberty train is a non-stop trip to the end of the line (and that end is not anarchyville), there are other trains one can take if they only want to get closer to liberty without having it. The Republican train will actually take you further from liberty and so will the Democratic train.
The truth is gradualism never works. Harry Browne illustrated this perfectly. ============================================= Gradualism won't work; do it all swiftly Some people believe progress must come slowly, a little each year in a gradual restoration of constitutional government. But I don't believe we can succeed by trying to phase out government programs a little at a time. 1. There are many reasons gradualism won't work. Here are some of them: There will be interminable argument over which programs will be eliminated first. 2. Politicians won't stick very long to any plan that leads to smaller government. 3. A program that is immediate and complete is the only way we can assure Americans that we aren't just looking for government jobs like other politicians-that we intend to minimize government and maximize liberty. 4. Only a big reward will motivate people to actively support our plan. The Great Libertarian Offer, with its complete elimination of the income tax, is such a reward. Politicians will never willingly give up what they've taken from us. We must recover it swiftly, decisively, and completely. Source: The Great Libertarian Offer, p.225-226 Sep 9, 2000 If you're in for a penny, you're in for a pound. --- In [email protected], Jim Syler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alright, you've missed the entire point of the train metaphor, and > proved my point in the process. > > First, let's discard this talk about personality. I don't know where > you got it, but it forms no part of my argument. > > The point of the train metaphor is that you have this "libertarian > train" that is leading toward liberty. It starts here, at the horrible > situation we are in now, and has several stops on the way, that might > be called "lower taxes," "fewer business regulations," "greater > personal freedoms," "abolishment of the income tax," "re-establishment > of Constitutional government," and finally "anarcho-capitalism." The > idea is that everybody can get on the LP train, then get off when they > have reached their desired level of freedom. > > The problem is that when you walk up to the LP conductor, he says, > "Welcome aboard! Here's your ticket to anarcho-capitalism." (The > ticket, for the metaphorically impaired, being the Oath.) The boarder > says "no, there must be some mistake, I only wanted to go to > Constitutional government." The conductor says, "That's fine, sir, > we'll be going right past there on our way to anarcho-capitalism." > "So," the potential passenger says, "I'll be able to get off there > then?" "Well, no, sir, we won't making any stops until we get to > anarcho-capitalism. If you get on here, you're on for the long haul." > "Thanks anyway," says the potential passenger, and looks around for > another train. The problem is, there aren't any other trains heading > for liberty. > > j > > On Mar 28, 2006, at 2:27 PM, steven linnabary wrote: > > > From: "Jim Syler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> > >> Which is the point, and the problem. If we could all work together > >> toward liberty, using the "libertarian train" metaphor, that would be > >> great. But that's not how it works. The purists (admittedly, not all > >> of > >> them, but I don't hear the ones that don't chastising the ones who do) > >> do everything within their power to move all others out of the Party, > >> by ridicule, by condemnation, by calling them "not libertarians," by > >> loudly trying to exclude them from leadership positions, from trying > >> to > >> stymie every move in any direction if they are in leadership > >> positions, > >> ad nauseam. > >> > > > > To expand on your train metaphor, the engine, or locomotive, that > > powers the > > LP is its ideology. And that ideology is best explained (in its > > consolidated form) with the pledge. The pledge is expanded with the > > "Statement of Principles" and that is expanded with the LP Platform. > > Now, while anyone is welcome to ride aboard this freedom train, it > > wouldn't > > be prudent to allow just anyone to be the engineer. In fact, it would > > be > > counterproductive. > > You see, there have been several "trains" since the birth of the LP in > > '71. > > There was the "Wallace" train in '68 & '72, the "Anderson" train in > > '80, and > > the "Perot" train in '92 & '96. Each of these trains could (with some > > pretzel logic) be considered "libertarian" by one stretch or another. > > But > > in each case, the train locomotive was not principle but personality. > > And > > each of these trains is now dead, while the LP train driven by > > ideology is > > still chugging along. > > So it seems pretty clear to me that any attempt to sell out our > > principles > > for a personality driven cult would be idiotic. In fact, while the > > republican party took up some of Perots' ideas in '94, all those cars > > were > > abandoned at the siding many years ago. > > At the same time, not one single train car or plank of the LP > > Platform has > > been abolished or repudiated, except when it has become necessary by > > beaureaucratic shuffling (the LP no longer calls for the abolition or > > Dept > > Health, Education and Welfare or of Immigration and Naturalization > > Service). > > The LP is several time bigger than when I got on board in the early > > 80's and > > is still chugging along just fine (in spite of the uphill grade since > > 9/11). > > It is pretty clear to me that the LP would have run out of steam long > > ago > > had we put an engineer of personality (as opposed to principle) in the > > locomotive. > > And when this train gets to the crest of the hill, I want an engineer > > in > > charge that knows what he is talking about when we speed up on the > > other > > side! > > > > PEACE > > Steven R. 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