UncoolRabbit, you sure as hell need some 'rethought' imo :) Some of what you refer to as 'confilct' with NAP is not. You apparently do NOT understand that the physical aggression truce principle at libertarianism's core is OPPOSED to environmental pollution. The rest of what you said in garbled manner also does NOT conflict with UNIVERSAL libertarianism. Please think and speak clearly on this matter.
So AGAIN, what would you advocate as cause to initiate, or do a credible threat to initiate, physical force against an innocent person or their justly held possesession? -Terry Liberty Parker http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I want to force others to not force things on others Terry. I have > the belief, perhaps deranged who knows, that we are not Angels, and > I believe you know the Madison quote. > > I believe there is a role for limited goverment, and part of it > should be using the credible initiation of force to prevent the > initiation of force, as oxymoronic as that must sound. Further more > I believe that there are many real issues, such as enviromental > protection vs anarcho-captilism that are a real conflicting issue in > the NAP/ZAP world of theory as both sides can argue it is the other > initiating force against them. These cases mean that, for a true > philosophical triumph the philosophy needs to be rethought. > > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" <txliberty@> > wrote: > > > > Uncoolrabbit, hate's got nothing to do with it! > > > > You seem to be confusing the advocacy of ideals vs advocacy of > > various implementation approaches. > > > > But, I will ask you: what initiation, or credible threat of > > initiation, of physical force against an innocent person or their > > justly held possession, do YOU want to advocate? > > > > > > -Terry Liberty Parker > > 'Real World' experiment in LIBERTARIAN community became famous > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/2569 > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@> > > wrote: > > > > > > 'Freedom' to violate you and yours > > > is at the heart of UNLIMITED 'libertarianism' > > > > > > In an apparent attempt to impose > > > the continuing philosophic idealogy > > > of extreem libertarianism, there is a push > > > to demonize the pragmatists who seek real change. > > > Now that the comfortable obscurity of Libertariansm > > > has essentially fallen, the banner of 'liberty' becomes > > > a hijacking target of the 'consistant libertarians.' > Aggressors > > who > > > eagerly want to maintain that only they know what truely > > is 'liberty' > > > with no 'exceptions' to what they want to see construed as THE > > > UNIVERSAL view of libertarianism. > > > > > > > > > Don't hate me Terry :) > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
