Yeah...  what Thomas said...  to which I would add: 

MORALITY: Public, Private & Personal 
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/47174  

-TLP


--- In [email protected], "Thomas L. Knapp" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Quoth Andre:
> 
> > Anarchy is simply the absence of government.
> 
> Not exactly. Anarchy (in the political sense, versus the "chaos, 
rape
> and murder" hype) is the absence of _the state_, which is a very
> SPECIFIC form of "government."
> 
> We'll always have "government," because "government" is simply any
> system under which a discrete group administers the mutual affairs 
of
> the group's members.
> 
> A state is an organization claiming, and attempting to enforce, a
> monopoly for itself on determining and administering the process of
> government within, and on matters relating to, a given geographic 
area
> and the people residing within that area. As geography continues to
> become less important, it may attempt to claim such monopolies over
> populations bound by other criteria than geography, but that's been
> the main basis for the last 400 years or so.
> 
> Al Qaeda is a throwback insofar as its goal is to coerce the 
political
> allegiance of Muslims (under "sharia" law) just as the medieval Holy
> Roman Catholic Church coerced the political allegiance of 
Christians. 
> 
> As feudalism developed, a geographically-based state polity 
displaced
> "christendom." The industrial revolution and its attendant upheavals
> tended to free people from feudal bonds of serfdom to lords
> self-selected on the basis of ancestry, but geography remained the
> obvious basis for polity for some time thereafter -- the automobile
> and the airplane didn't make travel fast enough, nor did the 
telegraph
> and telephone carry information fast enough, to supersede geography.
> 
> Now we have the Internet, which makes exchange of information on a
> large scale nearly instantaneous, and it is now possible for
> self-selected groups of individuals who may not be geographically
> co-located to seriously consider various forms of self-government
> which invite/request support for their goals rather than demanding
> allegiance to self-proclaimed monopolies. Not without kinks and
> exceptions, of coruse, but it's coming.
> 
> Tom Knapp
>






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