If you grow turnips in your garden, they are domestic turnips and you have nothing to worry about. If you try to sell your Turnips in Japan, you must pay for the PRIVILEGE.
--- In [email protected], "terry12622000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can voluntarly avoid eating 2 turnips from my garden instead of 1 > but I perfer to have 2 and noone has a right to tell me I can't eat > two on my own property, or selling the turnips on my property to > someone else, either way it is coresive to charge me a tax, it is > clearly intation of force and I have a right to defend myself if > someone trys to collect by use of force, unless they can show all 12 > members of a jury why I owe the tax but I have a right to an appeal > if the jury decesion goes against > me. > Paul it is called due process, Someone can't just claim I owe a tax > unless you can prove before a jury of 12 of my peers why I owe the > debt and how much I owe. If anyone try to enforce me to pay without > proving their case before a jury I have a right to defend myself.--- > In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: > > > > All advocates of libertarianism accept the non-aggression principle > as the defining characteristic that determines whether or not a > perspective is libertarian. This is what the LP pledge means. Those > that don't, aren't being consistent with libertarianism. > > > > I happen to agree with Harry Browne's words that tariffs are not > > perfect, but they are better than everything else, but I disagree > that > > tariffs are even the slightest bit coercive or anything even > remotely > > connected to an initiation of force. > > > > Anything that can be voluntarily avoided is not an initiation of > > force. For instance if someone sees a short toll road owned by a > > private corporation or a longer path that is free, and they choose > to > > take the toll road, they have no valid complaints when it comes to > > paying it. They weren't forced to choose that road. They could > have > > avoided it by taking the other road, but they CHOSE the short path. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Thomas L. Knapp" > > <thomaslknapp@> wrote: > > > > > > Quoth Paul Ireland: > > > > > > > Libertarians (like Harry Browne) support a non-protectionist > flat 3% > > > > tariff on all imported goods which would not hamper anyone's > ability > > > > to compete in the market and would be fair. > > > > > > Some Libertarians (including the late Harry Browne) support(ed) a > > > tariff. Some don't. > > > > > > Either way, saying that Libertarians support a tariff is very > > > different from saying taht Libertarians regard a tariff as being > > > consistent with the non-aggression principle. Not all Libertarians > > > accept the non-aggression principle as a criterion of what > constitutes > > > libertarianism. Some who do accept it posit a necessary > transitional > > > period from here to "libertopia." So far as I know, you're the > only > > > person who tries to put over the absurd proposition that tariffs > are > > > "non-coercive." > > > > > > Browne certainly didn't regard tariffs as non-coercive -- as a > matter > > > of fact, he made it clear that he regarded them as just a "lesser > > > evil" to be accepted during a transition: > > > > > > "Tariffs (or 'duties') are taxes on imports. A tariff isn't > a 'good' > > > tax; it's just a tax. But the government can collect it without > > > sending IRS agents to snoop through your records. Until we find a > way > > > to finance government without taxes or a way to assure our safety > > > without any government, some form of taxation will be necessary. > And > > > my choice is to use tariffs and excise taxes -- as the Founding > > > Fathers did." > > > > > > -- "Freedom to work, to earn and to buy," from _The Great > Libertarian > > > Offer_, by Harry Browne, > http://www.harrybrowne.org/GLO/FreeTrade.htm > > > > > > Tom Knapp > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
