If all of them agree, they can ban drugs, they can ban abortion, they
can charge fees, they require all mail boxes be painted pink and all
house be painted black, they can require a traiff but all must agree,
if one person does not agree then the rules, bans and traiff are not
legitamite.--- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> This is where your logic fails. 
>
> On an island without a government, people can legitimately band
> together to defend rights, but not to violate them.  People do have
> the right to determine whether or not someone else will be allowed
to
> sell goods within their combined and/or collective property.  This
> means they can grant this power to government.  Nobody on an island
> has the right to tell another person what medicines they will or
won't
> take, what weapons they will or won't own, or what religion they
will
> follow.  This means they can't grant this power to government.
>
> Tariffs are legitimate.  Drug laws, gun laws, abortion laws, and and
> religious laws are not.
>
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "Thomas L. Knapp"
> <thomaslknapp@> wrote:
> >
> > Quoth Paul Ireland:
> >
> > > To determine whether any law is legitimate all one must do is
ask what
> > > would happen if you didn't have a government.  If there were a
> > > community of people who each owned land and these people agreed
to
> > > protect each other from violence, attacks, etc., they could
also agree
> > > that nobody from outside thier community would be allowed to
sell
> > > goods within the community they own, without paying a fee to
the town
> > > to cover the cost of having police, judges, lawyers, etc. to
ensure
> > > that the business they conduct isn't fraudulent, theft, etc.
> >
> > And they could agree that decapitation is the proper penalty for
> > possession of marijuana.
> >
> > And they could agree that having a handgun merits a prison
sentence.
> >
> > And they could agree that if the guy down the road has a 55-gallon
> > drum in his garage that may have something dangerous, it's okay
for
> > them to go over and burn his house down, just in case.
> >
> > And they could agree that if someone floats, she must be made of
wood,
> > and is therefore a witch, and therefore should be burned.
> >
> > They could agree on any or all of those things. They probably
wouldn't
> > try to portray their claims as "libertarian," though.
> >
> > Tom Knapp
> >
>






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