Terry,
I can't figure out how your post is relative to my fight to gain
access to public forest land. Are you claiming that I do NOT have
access rights? If you could clearly state your point, it might be
helpful.
-Mark



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Mark,  how much taxes a person payed may not have much bearning
on
government property claim. I agree taxes are extorting  and a
debt is
owed for that extortion and outside of negotiating or suing
individuals and private outfits you might be able to get
compensation
or repreations from the government and to do that without
violating
ZAP government assets are the source for compensation because
more
taxes would only dig the problem deeper. That being said the
taxpayer
may have to step in line to be compensated and by the time he
gets to
the front of the line there may not be enough government assets
to
compensate him. The government has a long history of abuse,
breaking
treaties going back on its word, lieing stealing peoples land
homes,
farms and businesses. So At least in case of the Smoky MOutain
National Park and the Cherokee National Forest, it is the orginal

homesteaders that own that land or their heirs or volunter
trading
partners or as far back as can be traced, many of them I think
still
live around the national park and forest and still use it
although
the government unjustly forces them to limit that use. Seems I
remeber seeing a TV special about the federal government forcing
people off their farms and land to start a national park or
nation
forest back in the 70s up in one of the Eastern MIdwest states
was
this the Hooiser National Forest or did that happen  in Ohio?
Outside
of tracing the first homesteaders or their heirs we have posseion
and
use to go on, Here in  eastTN. and Western NC that would be the
local
nearest the park and forest that use the park, as I said federal
employees can claim the parts they use and even claim it for the
federal government but the Smoky Mt. national Park and the
Cherokee
NAtional Forest cover a lot of ground and they border two
national
forest in NC and the Blue Ridge National Parkway which goes into
VA.,
the rangers can't posses and use all of that. Since much of the
land
was taking by extortion the federal governments land title is in
great question of valdity so we have either use or  tracing back
to
the orginal homesteader. In the 30s and 40s the Tennesse Valley
Authority forced thousands of people off their land to flood tens
of
thousands of acres, some of them were my family who were forced
off
good farm land to build two dams in my area, hundreds of people
in
the 50s and 60s were forced out of their homes, farms and
businesses
to build the Interstates.---



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