right to access but what I am saying don't assume because it is
called federal property or for that matter if it was called state
property or city property and that you pay taxes to the government
that you have a right to access the property and use it.Those two
factors alone do not justify a claim.--- In
[email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Terry,
> I can't figure out how your post is relative to my fight to gain
> access to public forest land. Are you claiming that I do NOT have
> access rights? If you could clearly state your point, it might be
> helpful.
> -Mark
>
>
>
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>
> Mark, how much taxes a person payed may not have much bearning
> on
> government property claim. I agree taxes are extorting and a
> debt is
> owed for that extortion and outside of negotiating or suing
> individuals and private outfits you might be able to get
> compensation
> or repreations from the government and to do that without
> violating
> ZAP government assets are the source for compensation because
> more
> taxes would only dig the problem deeper. That being said the
> taxpayer
> may have to step in line to be compensated and by the time he
> gets to
> the front of the line there may not be enough government assets
> to
> compensate him. The government has a long history of abuse,
> breaking
> treaties going back on its word, lieing stealing peoples land
> homes,
> farms and businesses. So At least in case of the Smoky MOutain
> National Park and the Cherokee National Forest, it is the orginal
>
> homesteaders that own that land or their heirs or volunter
> trading
> partners or as far back as can be traced, many of them I think
> still
> live around the national park and forest and still use it
> although
> the government unjustly forces them to limit that use. Seems I
> remeber seeing a TV special about the federal government forcing
> people off their farms and land to start a national park or
> nation
> forest back in the 70s up in one of the Eastern MIdwest states
> was
> this the Hooiser National Forest or did that happen in Ohio?
> Outside
> of tracing the first homesteaders or their heirs we have posseion
> and
> use to go on, Here in eastTN. and Western NC that would be the
> local
> nearest the park and forest that use the park, as I said federal
> employees can claim the parts they use and even claim it for the
> federal government but the Smoky Mt. national Park and the
> Cherokee
> NAtional Forest cover a lot of ground and they border two
> national
> forest in NC and the Blue Ridge National Parkway which goes into
> VA.,
> the rangers can't posses and use all of that. Since much of the
> land
> was taking by extortion the federal governments land title is in
> great question of valdity so we have either use or tracing back
> to
> the orginal homesteader. In the 30s and 40s the Tennesse Valley
> Authority forced thousands of people off their land to flood tens
> of
> thousands of acres, some of them were my family who were forced
> off
> good farm land to build two dams in my area, hundreds of people
> in
> the 50s and 60s were forced out of their homes, farms and
> businesses
> to build the Interstates.---
>
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