think, I suggest that you interview, for example, a few thousand of those US citizens who pay alternative minimum tax to the US Government at around the time they are paying it. (They will have to be assured of complete anonymity). As for non-US citizens, there are many, many of them who have a better impression of the US than it deserves. So I do not know on what basis you draw the conclusion that most of the haters of the USA are located physically outside its borders and that most of the lovers of the USA are physically inside its borders. Has anyone ever conducted any actual research to try to see if these ideas hold water? --And even if they should, it takes no more than a few dissidents to cause great destruction; it does not take a "majority." The proportion of dissidents may not turn out to be any more signifigant than their physical location. Do you say that floods of foreign immigration would destroy the government schools and the welfare system? Well,
what could possibly be better than that? It seems the same people who deplore these vicious programs also deplore, in the crunch, their possible nemesis.
terry12622000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I iamgine there are some or many immigrants that are causing property
damage and violent acts but there are also American doing the same
thing. Do we tempt the federal political class with more power by
calling on the federal government to provide us with a national
police force, or have our streets patroled by the miltary or National
Guard because we have crime? Most of the Republican and Democrat
members of this federal political class elite are licking their chops
over this immigrant issue justing itching to gain more power, polls
are showing that 80 plus percent of Americans are saying it is a
problem, a failure government policy it would be very unwise to give
it to them failures more power over our lifes, it does not make sense
( oh federal government your screwing up, so giving you more power
will set you straight. yeah and I have Ocean front property in
Arizonia for sale real cheap).Also take into account how much of this
problem is greatly made worse by the federal government through
their heavy taxation, regulations, NAFTA, war on drugs, war on guns,
kicking down the local miltias and Sheriff Posses and their control
of the banking system and promoting of the IMF and the World Bank.---
In [email protected], "David Macko" wrote:
>
> Here is some honest non-establishment news which does not
> sound like hype to me:
>
> See www.prisonplanet.com.
> Blackout On Violent Illegal Alien Invasions of Schools, County
Buildings,
> Stabbings In Santa Ana
> Government buildings locked down during protests in fear of attacks
>
> Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet.com | May 4 2006
>
> The media has portrayed the immigration protests as orderly and
peaceful yet
> in Santa Ana California alarming reports have emerged of illegal
aliens
> swarming around in mobs invading schools, carrying out violent
beatings and
> in one incident a county worker had a Mexican flag plunged into his
chest.
>
> Latino Americans For Immigration Reform spokeswoman and senatorial
candidate
> Lupe Moreno appeared on The Alex Jones Show to discuss the two
incidents.
>
> She first described how on March 27th how a group of rioting
Mexicans ran
> into a local Santa Ana high school and attempted to tear down an
American
> flag. The school police and a police SWAT team had to stand guard
to prevent
> the youths from getting to the flag. This story received no
mainstream press
> coverage whatsoever during the first wave of immigration
demonstrations.
>
> Moreno said that the Mexican consulate had penetrated Californian
schools
> with books teaching Hispanics that the American flag is a symbol of
the
> enemy.
>
> County workers in Santa Anna looked out of their windows on May 1st
to see
> Mexicans beating other county workers and police before they rushed
towards
> the government building and stormed it, stabbing one worker with a
Mexican
> flag in the process.
>
>
>
> Moreno described the stabbing as seen on a video tape of the
incident.
>
> "The men start running and then you can see all these people, and
they
> weren't just kids, some adults and the kids were behind them, but
you can
> see this guy chasing this man down and he plunges the stick of his
flag pole
> into this man's chest."
>
> In all, illegals had broken into five government buildings in the
area,
> causing the county to take the decision to lock down all government
> buildings during planned demonstrations.
>
> "Why are we letting this happen? It's like a trojan horse, they
come bearing
> gifts to kill us," said Moreno.
>
> "Our country is in serious serious trouble. My children do not want
to live
> in the city they were born in anymore because we have been taken
over so
> badly. 78 per cent of my neighbors are illegal aliens."
>
> Why hasn't the media reported on these violent attacks and
stabbings? How
> many more similar incidents have occurred without receiving any
coverage
> whatsoever?
>
> Moreno said that government workers were afraid that more attacks
would take
> place to coincide with future immigration demonstrations.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry L Parker"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:15 PM
> Subject: [LibertyProspects] Re: Our future if we do not control
immigration
>
>
> FROM Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
>
> Main Entry: in·va·sion
> Pronunciation: in-'vA-zh&n
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Middle English invasioune, from Middle French invasion,
> from Late Latin invasion-, invasio, from Latin invadere to invade
>
> 1 : an act of invading; especially : incursion of an army for
> conquest or plunder
> 2 : the incoming or spread of something usually hurtful
>
> at http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/invasion
>
>
> David, your use of the word 'invasion' is xenophobic hype :)
>
> Sans arbitrary criminalization, the migration of these folks is no
> different than migration of folks across state borders in the USA.
>
> Just what is it that the bulk of these people do which you think
> makes them like the money changers evicted by Jesus from the temple?
>
> Do you REALLY believe that the Christ who promoted love as THE most
> important apect of God's will to be emulated, would take a sword to
> these men, women and children just for being here?
>
> Would you damn your religion and soul for the sake of your fear?
>
>
> -Terry Liberty Parker
> Mark 12:31 (American Standard Version)
> The second is this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
> There is none other commandment greater than these.
> (Love God whole heartedly was the first one)
>
>
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David Macko"
> wrote:
> >
> > Terry: I apologize for not responding sooner to your question
about
> > what Jesus would do regarding the immigration or invasion
situation.
> > The Bible does record how Christ expelled the moneychangers from
> > the Temple, His Father's house. Also, He advised at one point (I
am
> to lazy
> > to quote chapter
> > and verse right now) to sell an extra cloak to buy a sword if you
> do not
> > have one.
> > I infer from this that there is a right of self-defense of my
> property, just
> > as you and all
> > other Americans have a right to defend their own property,
> especially from
> > invasion.
> > There are numerous reports from the border of violations of
> property rights
> > of
> > Americans by the "immigrants".
> >
> > For life and liberty,
> > David Macko
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Terry L Parker"
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:05 PM
> > Subject: [LibertyProspects] Re: Our future if we do not control
> immigration
> >
> >
> > > Your advocacy is morally bankrupt!
> > >
> > > Libertarians who are consistent to the universalizing principle
> of a
> > > physical aggression truce (aka: NAP, ZAP and so on) support
> > > prohibitions on physical assault upon person/property of
innocent
> > > people. So, your attempt to equate repeal of govt xenophobic
> > > prohibition is a stupid fallacy. It's the same lame bull shit
> > > attempted by govt drug prohibitionists.
> > >
> > > In your fear of an actual free society, you advocate liberty &
> > > justice for... only those just like you; aka unjust privilege.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Terry Liberty Parker
> > > please see what I wrote in
> > > 'LIMITED vs UNIVERSAL Libertarianism'
> > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/47878
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Perna
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Our future if we do not control immigration
> > >>
> > >> Did we not notice what happened to the Indians because they
did
> > > not control immigration?
> > >> If you woke up tonight with a gun at your head,
> > >> you would agree that burglary should be illegal.
> > >> So is illegal immigration.
> > >> Those who were born here of parents who were citizens,
> > >> are our citizens.
> > >> The fact that our ancestors were immigrants is irrelevant
when
> > > discussing the invasion that is now taking place.
> > >> THE QUESTION IS Do WE keep criminals out of our own home?
> > >>
> > >> Did you see the photos of the demonstrators?
> > >> The signs said things like this:
> > >>
> > >> "We did not cross the border.
> > >> The border crossed us"
> > >>
> > >> "This is our land. Gringos should leave"
> > >>
> > >> "All Europeans who came here since 1492 were illegal"
> > >>
> > >> They flew Mexican flags and did the national anthem in
Spanish.
> > >> Did your ancestors try to change our language?
> > >>
> > >> Do a google search on "Atzlan". In case you do not want to
> > > bother,
> > >> I will tell you that "Atzlan" is the name of the new country,
> > >> that they plan to form after they take the south west away
from
> > > the "gringos".
> > >>
> > >> When will the bloodshed stop in Israel?
> > >> What is it like in South Africa now?
> > >> Do we want the same thing here?
> > >>
> > >> If the number of illegal immigrants,
> > >> that we have now,
> > >> are having boycotts, demonstrations, demanding "rights", and
> > > claiming to own this country,
> > >> THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE DO NOT STOP MORE FROM COMING
> IN??????
> > >> If they have it so bad here, why are they coming in droves?
> > >> If they have it so bad here, why don't they go back?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What we are seeing now is IMPORTED CLASS STRUGGLE.
> > >> To understand what happens to a nation that becomes engulfed
in
> > > CLASS STRUGGLE
> > >> read the Communist Manifesto.
> > >> Their demonstrations and boycotts were on May First.
> > >> May First is a communist holiday.
> > >>
> > >> The FTAA would open our borders totally
> > >>
> > >> Visit:
> > >> http://www.stoptheftaa.org/
> > >> and
> > >> http://www.stoptheftaa.org/default.html
> > >>
> > >> Unfortunately, many Congressmen have accepted this hype that
> the
> > > so-called Free Trade Agreements (FTAs) are just designed to open
> up
> > > markets for American exports.
> >
>
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