position, in areas where my knowledge is incomplete I will
continue to rely on Ron Paul until you have obtained degrees
in obstetrics and gynecology, delivered at least 4,000 babies,
defended the cause of liberty in Congress for significant portions
of the last four decades and run for President of the United States
as a life member of the Libertarian Party. Subject closed.
For life and liberty,
David Macko
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:35 PM
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Badnarik on Immigration
Why would I waste my time on a website based on a false premise, and
which violates the most sacred of libertarian principles .... sole
dominion over our own body and the contents within.
--- In [email protected], "David Macko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Apparently you still have not had enough time to completely
> read all of the information at www.l4l.org.
>
> For life and liberty,
> David Macko
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:48 AM
> Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Badnarik on Immigration
>
>
> >A zygote is not a human being. It does not posess human life. it has
> > the POTENTIAL for human life, but does not have it. Separate DNA does
> > not amount to human life. A fetus is not a whole human being. A
> > whole human being is a fully sentient person and a fetus is not. We
> > can use Terry's definition of person if you choose.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> A sperm cell is not human life but it has the potential to be, a
> >> human egg cell is not human life but it has the potential to be so.
> >> A human fetus is not a piece of one human whole such as your arm, it
> >> is itself a human whole. You would be wiser to cop out and follow
> >> Terry's lead of personhood, as a human fetus is human. If you sever
> >> your arm its self mutilation, suggesting problems that I am not
> >> trained to deal with.
> >>
> >> --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > My arm is a human arm. It has human DNA, and it's alive. If I
> >> sever
> >> > my arm, have I murdered someone? Human life is different from any
> >> > other. Human life belongs to people (aka persons).
> >> >
> >> > Here are a list of things that do NOT qualify as HUMAN life.
> >> >
> >> > A beating heart
> >> > A cerebral cortex
> >> > A nervous system
> >> > Human DNA
> >> > Reflexive Actions or response to painful stimuli
> >> > Head, Torso, Hands, Feet, Fingers, Toes, Eyes, Ears, Nose, or Mouth
> >> > The shape of a human being
> >> >
> >> > An acorn is not an oak tree but it has the POTENTIAL to be one.
> >> Dough
> >> > is not bread, but it has the POTENTIAL to be. A fetus is not a
> >> human
> >> > being but it has the POTENTIAL to be one.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <uncoolrabbit@>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > On what basis do you feel it apropriate to twist, contort and
> >> > > outright lie about my statements Terry? I attribute HUMANESS to
> >> the
> >> > > fetus Terry. The response was to Paul, who does not merely argue
> >> > > that a fetus does not fit a definition of personhood. Paul
> >> outright
> >> > > claims that a human fetus is not human despite the fact that it
> >> is
> >> > > indead a human fetus, not a baboon fetus, not an antelope fetus
> >> not
> >> > > anything like that. My post remains below yours to remind you
> >> that
> >> > > not once did I use the word Personhood in it.
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker"
> >> <txliberty@>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On what basis do you assert that the property of personhood be
> >> > > > attributed to a pre-born human individual?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Please see what I wrote in this forum as
> >> > > > 'PERSONHOOD: Abortion & beyond'
> >> > > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/48100
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -Terry Liberty Parker
> >> > > > http://profiles.yahoo.com/txliberty
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit"
> >> <uncoolrabbit@>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > A much better statement of yourpoint of view than recently,
> >> but
> >> > > > > you "obviously are trying to" strip the human atrribute from
> >> a
> >> > > > human
> >> > > > > organism, just as the slaver or the fascist before you. :)
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