> There is no fetus fairy argument. A zygote isn't a human being. A
> fetus isn't a human being. At the moment of birth it BECOMES a human
> being.
Science and empirical observation say you're wrong. If you think you
are right ... PROVE IT.
> No "magic" is needed to describe why.
Good. Since no magic is needed to describe why, feel free to do so.
> NOTHING within the body
> of a person has any rights.
1) Person A (age 40, Ph.D. in astrophysics) was morbidly obese, but
recently had a surgery which left him weighing 100 pounds less, but
with an unsightly abdominal skin flap.
2) Person B is a midget (age 25, M.A. in history), two feet four
inches in height and weighing 40 pounds.
3) Person C kidnaps and knocks out Person A and Person B, makes an
incision in Person A's abdominal flap, stuffs Person B and an oxygen
tank inside, and sews Person A back up.
Do Person B's rights disappear? If so, why?
> At the moment of birth, the biological parasite (aka fetus) is removed
> from the body of its host and it is endowed with human rights
> including self-ownership, etc.
How and why?
> No magic is needed, yet all the difference in the world exists. In a
> matter of 1 second it goes from no human rights to full human rights.
How and why?
> The completely untenable position that a zygote is a human being is
> illogical and makes those who claim such seem unreasonable.
Except, of course, to anyone who has ever taken Biology 101 or cracked
the textbook.
> I've presented a logical, reasonable, intelligent, and non-insulting
> response to explain why it is that birth is when we obtain rights, and
> not a second before.
You've offered an assertion -- without so much as one iota of evidence
to support that assertion -- that nothing inside anyone else's body
has rights.
You've offered an assertion -- again, without so much as one iota of
evidence to support that assertion -- that rights are obtained at
birth (not a second before, and implicitly not a second after).
Two assertions aren't an "explanation." They're just two assertions.
> You either believe in sole dominion over our body and the organisms
> within it, or you don't.
In other words, "Paul Ireland said it, Paul Ireland believes it, that
settles it."
Tom Knapp
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