Terry P,

As anything and everything will be analyzed on the internet,
allow me to analyze your "non-position" positioning / "non-argue"
arguing. OOH, I can see the wisdom in such posting behavior.
OTOH, it's philosophically convenient, somewhat ill aligned with
"principlism", and a little tricky (unfair?) for others.

Let me explain the latter with a typical sequence profile. You
(or Tom) rebuts / challenges / confronts another's posted point,
appearing exactly like an argument / position. But when your
rebuttal is refuted by another's post (to an effective-enough
degree), your default response is to claim you are/were not
arguing the point/position. Such non-commitment allows you the
convenience to argue everything without fear of ever being
incorrect, akin to those who criticize everything with no
suggestion as to a solution or alternative - in other words: a
fancy way to say "although I don't know the answer, I am going to
tell you when you are wrong."  Obviously you have the right to
this posting behavior, but I just thought I would register my
slight complaint against it.

Now allow me to segway that into the meatier part (and imply that
you are implying a position):
Am I to assume that your challenge to me to find how and why
universal libertarianism regards infants as persons is a passive
way of suggesting that it doesn't?

-Mark



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Mark, I have NOT taken a cemented in position; I'm raising
questions
which need more than automatic presumptions as answers:  

Personhood- At what point do rights and obligations accrue to a
developing human individual?

The spectrum of opinion is from the moment of conception
(spiritual,
before physical zygote) thru physical gestation to birth and a
few
years beyond (human infanticide is actually NOT regarded as
murder in
some societies)

MoreAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/48519


*IF* you're taking the position that infanticide is also murder
(unjustifiable homicide) then present a rational case.  Many
ass/u/me
that normal human infants are actual persons (not just declared
as
such by the US Constitution). 

How and why is regarding infants as persons justified by a
universal
application of libertarianism? 


-Terry Liberty Parker
LIMITED vs UNIVERSAL Libertarianism
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/48521



--- In [email protected], "mark robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> TLP,
>
> Yes, I've read your criteria before. But I have to confess, I'm
> having trouble comprehending your/its position on infants,
> especially considering your other comments on infanticide.
Maybe
> you could explain a little further?
>
> -Mark
>



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