More ands more I am becoming convinced that the oath is a bad requirement.  It 
is at the same time overly constricting and ambiguous.  A very bad combination. 
 Those that have the inclination should be allowed to work towards liberty with 
out feeling that their efforts are unappreciated.

BWS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric S. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, June 16, 2006 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [Libertarian] The Oath

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I went back and reread the Ray Roberts article that was linked 
> in the 
> > email. His better pledge is also ambiguous. Who can use force 
> and who 
> > decides when their life, liberty or property are being attacked? 
> And 
> > yes upon analysis the current pledge is also ambiguous. But such 
> > pledges should be general in nature wrt principles and specific 
> wrt 
> > actions.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So, what does the Libertarian Party do about the practical problem 
> that it has a membership requirement which is silly -- the LP 
> requires signing something whose meaning is not obvious and the 
> same to everyone -- rewrite it in plainer language, provide an 
> explanation (from the convention or the LNC) of what it actually 
> means?
> If you do chose the explanation route, do you provide that 
> explanation along with the signature requirement, or spring the 
> actual meaning on them after they've signed?  Before makes for a 
> crowded form, after sounds like "bait and switch", only worse.
> 
> If you're going to include the explanation on the form, it had 
> best be short.  If it's short, why not include the explanation as 
> part of the requirement?
> 
> This whole series of practical questions avoids the one question 
> which no one has been able to answer to my satisfaction -- though 
> they are generally able to answer it to their own, and think that 
> should be enough to satisfy me -- why have this oath or any oath 
> at all?
> 
> That's a rhetorical question, and has already been asked and 
> answered.  At length.  We've already gotten a huge collection of 
> incompatible answers, so I'll spare you my latest and perhaps 
> snarkiest.  (E-mail me if you simply must know.  Garrison Keillor 
> might find it amusing.  Or not.)
> 
> Bottom line: what do you think the LP ought to do about this 
> defective requirement?  What do you think the LP will do about it? 
>  -Eric
> 
> -- 
> Eric S. Harris
> 
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