I am saying that in order to have a discussion we have to go with the knowledge that we have, even if it is incomplete. I see nothing wrong with demanding further knowledge and accountability, but until that is delivered we should not forestall any further discussion. If you believe that any further discussion is impossible, I'd like to hear your reasons rather than a complete digression into some other argument.
If individuals acting on behalf of the United States are deliberately targetting citizens in order to terrorize the populace, then those who are doing so and those who know about it and offer support or refuse to intervene if possible are complicit in terrorist acts. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Stroebel Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 8:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Libertarian] MODERATOR Intervention! Re: More evidence, Muslims are enemies of Free Speech Ah.....so we don't need accurate info on who 'they' are....is that about right? You seem to believe your idea of who 'they' are does not need to be accurate. OK. Tell me this: when it comes to torture in Abu Graeb prison, Marines massacres, dropping bombs on civilian centers of cities, or the 100,000 tp 250,000 dead Iraqi civilians depending on who you believe (can't go by what our gov't says..,..they don't do a body count on dead men women and children)....and you say > "but placing bombs in cars and targetting innocent civilians is an attack > and worthy of being called terrorism." ...does that make US terrorists???? On 6/20/06, Cory Nott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They may consider themselves to be defenders - whether of faith or > country or whatever, but placing bombs in cars and targetting innocent > civilians is an attack and worthy of being called terrorism. They are > attempting to influence events by inspiring terror in a populace. > > As for whether or not we are getting "accurate answers" is entirely a > separate issue and irrelevant to the labels that can be used to describe > certain activities. If we are deliberately (and in the minds of many, > unintentionally) attacking civilians then it is murder, pure and simple. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XmUd6C/bOaOAA/cUmLAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
