Well because veto power and line veto power are apples and oranges. There is no 'some' about it....it is a power he does not have. He CAN veto a bill, but line veto allows his to cross off what he does not like and approve the rest.
The Supreme Court already ruled it unconstitutional. any other questions? On 6/22/06, Vic Cinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > why shouldnt the president be able to red line some items??????? > > afaik he already has right of veto. > > Vic > > > John Stroebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] <john.stroebel%40gmail.com>] wrote: > > > > Well now, it seems Bush jr wants to grab a little more power. Rove and > > Cheney got him the Supreme Court, a slim majority in both houses (until > > Nov at least), he has his fun with 'signing statements'...now he wants > > authority for line item veto on funding approved by Congress. The reason > > be believes this is a good idea: 'One pinhead is better than all of > > Congress.' > > > > 'Pappy, I wanna be appointed DICTATOR next!" jr tells Bush sr..."I wanna > > be the BIG Decider!" Well OK georgie honey, time you string all those > > vacations together into one BIG vacation! Hows about you just > > concentrate on clearing shrub, drinking heavily and doing Condi....until > > the Federal Marshals come by to take you on that long Federal > > vacation??? Hmmm??? > > > > Folks, vote in November...and take 10 friends with ya. > > > > White House steps up effort to gain line-item veto > > House expected to vote on bill today; Dem leaders mostly opposed to plan > > > > > > By JULIE MASON > > Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau > > > > WASHINGTON - The White House on Wednesday intensified a last-minute > > campaign to win line-item veto authority from Congress, but a top > > administration official conceded that the outcome was far from certain. > > > > The House today is expected to vote on a bill that would allow the > > president to red-line specific expenditures in appropriation bills. > > > > "It's not going to be easy to get this to the president's desk," said > > Rob Portman, director of the Office of Management and Budget. "This is a > > major change." > > > > Portman, a former Republican congressman from Ohio, has been pushing the > > issue on Capitol Hill, and on Wednesday met with reporters from 13 > > regional newspapers, hoping to drum up more support for the plan. > > > > "This is not about President Bush, this is something that's for the > > presidency," Portman said. "Forty-three governors have something quite > > similar to this, so it's not untested." > > > > Congress in 1996 gave President Clinton line-item veto power, but two > > years later the courts struck it down as unconstitutional, in part > > because it gave too much power to the executive branch. > > > > In its new incarnation, the president's line-item veto could be reversed > > by a simple majority in both House and Senate. The old line-item veto > > required a two-thirds margin of both House and Senate to override the > > president. > > > > The Democratic leadership in the House is mostly opposed to the plan, > > along with some Republican appropriators. > > > > Rep. Gene Green, D-Houston, said he supported line-item authority in the > > 1990s but worries that Bush already is grabbing too much power from > > Congress. > > > > "I really don't feel comfortable having a stronger executive branch in > > our country," Green said. "I would rather look at it again, sometime, > > when we don't have an executive taking a lot of power unto themselves." > > > > In a worst-case scenario, a president could use the line-item veto > > threat as a wedge to punish or blackmail lawmakers, said Rep. Al Green, > > D-Houston. > > > > "I am opposed to it," Green said. "I think it could become terribly > > politicized in the long run." > > > > But Rep. Kevin Brady, R-The Woodlands, called line-item veto authority > > "a great idea." > > > > "They ought to call it the 'public embarrassment for obscene pork bill,' > > and hopefully it will be a deterrent for some of these ridiculous > > earmarks," Brady said. > > > > Spiraling federal spending is a potent election-year issue, and the > > Republican-led Congress feels pressure to appear fiscally responsible. A > > wave of lobbying scandals and renewed focus on thousands of earmarks, > > which are expenditures added to spending bills by individual lawmakers, > > have prompted criticism of congressional extravagance. > > > > Stephen Hess, a communications professor and government scholar at > > George Washington University, said that neither earmarks nor line-item > > vetoes make a significant dent in the massive federal budget. > > > > "It's just around the edges," Hess said. "Clearly line-item is aimed at > > keeping the budget down, but when you look at the expenditures it can > > keep down, given the size of the budget, you realize that although it > > shouldn't sound like petty change, it really is." > > > > Clinton used his line-item veto 82 times in two years, and cut about $1 > > billion in federal spending. The current federal budget is about $2.7 > > trillion, and the national debt is $8.4 trillion. > > > > The Senate Budget Committee recently approved a similar measure, as well > > as other budget reforms, but it was unclear when the full Senate might > > consider it. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian > > Yahoo! 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