Actually social security and medicare aren't a legal promise
according to the Supreme Court in the 1950s, they are government
social programs that Congess can cut at will and give to who they
want or not give such as a deported Communist or seniors with incomes
over 30,000 a year or real estate worth more than 200,000 dollars.
The Amish said it was against there faith to pay into an social
security insurance program besides they said they took care of their
old folks, they provided for them, the courts ruled again that it was
not insurance but a tax for a program, although the Medicare bill of
1965 did exempt self employed Amish from paying social security and
medicare tax, largely due to public out cry of the mistreatment of
the Amish in Iowa by school authorites.
Of course politicans and bureuctats, even some teachers and
media people did mislead people into assuming social security was and
is a insurance program, that there is an actual trust fund so this
has the potentional of possible law suits including class action
suits.
The government except maybe the local or county should get out
of the health care or health care providing business including
medicare and they should largely get out of the healthcare and drug
regulation business and get out of the intellectual property business
of drug patents.--- In [email protected], "John Stroebel"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> well, let's be reasonable.
>
> Let's cut our defence spending. We're throwing the money away
anyway...but
> second let's start by requiring EVERY government contract to go
through a
> bid process. No reason not to, would you agree?
> And when we stop paying 100% medican care to Iraqis we might discuss
> medicare.
>
> and when the law is changed, and when every American who did NOT
collect the
> soocial security funding he or she put in, we can talk about SSI
and SS.
> How's that?
>
> Oh...no, Bush was appointed, not elected the first time. The second
time is
> still being debated. Remember that one, it is still being debated?
>
>
> On 6/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > From: John Stroebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<john.stroebel%
40gmail.com>
> > >
> > > ow about...Bush was never legally elected and it the absolute
> > > worse drunk of
> > > an appointed President since Grant?
> > >
> >
> > Sorry to disappoint you on this one, we actually did legally
elect him
> > both times. Stupid of us to do so, but still a legal election.
> >
> >
> > > How about we are spending money like it was growing on trees and
> > > our great grandkids will still be paying it off all so
Halliburten can
> > roll
> > > in dough?
> > >
> > This one yes, the first thing that needs to go is welfare and
Medicaid,
> > SSI and all other such crap.
> >
> >
> > > I think we can all agree on those facts.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
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