Just released CNN Poll shows 67% of Americans support Israel in the conflict, only 4% back Hezbollah.
Your ideas to back Hezbollah in the conflict are idiotic on two levels, firstly from a libertarian perspective - Israel being quite a libertarian nation with a mostly Free Enterprise economy, tolerant attitudes on drinking laws and nightclubs, and semi-nude beaches versus the horribly prudish Muslims who advocate Socialist economics and prudishly repressive laws outlawing personal freedoms. Secondly, from a practical political perspective. Why in the bloody hell would the libertarian movement want to ally with 4% of the American public, versus 67%??? Do you really wish to destroy the libertarian movement? Make our movement as obscure and unpopular as we can possibly be? What's next, "Libertarians for Meth-Amphetimine" or "Libertarians for Legalization of Child Pornography?" --- In [email protected], Harland Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone in the US who ignores this slaughter is the one with bloody hands! > Bob Hunt calls diplomacy "evil" and says diplomacy "encourages" more deaths > than war. I can only imagine he actually wants more death and suffering in > Lebanon and Gaza. > > Please join with this Jewish peace group who are trying to stop the > violence. > > http://ga3.org/campaign/mideast_crisis/ > > Thanks to Cheryl Guttman for telling us Libertarians about Brit Tzedek > v'Shalom, (Jewish Alliance for Justice and Peace). > > Harland Harrison > LP of San Mateo CA > > > "bob hunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > This should be titled easy action to support evil and encourage > > millions of more deaths in the long term. > > > > Anyone who follows these suggestions actually has blood on their > > hands instead. > > > > > > > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:18:06 -0400, "Cheryl Guttman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> --Please FORWARD-- > >> > >> Please use this link as an easy way to contact Bush and Congress > > with one email to stop the current horrendous conflagration in the > > Middle East from a pro-Israel perspective. This initiative comes > > from Brit Tzedek, an American Jewish organization that is pro- peace > > and pro-Israel (encouraging both a cease fire and return of the > > soldiers). > >> > >> http://ga3.org/campaign/mideast_crisis/forward/i6687gw2y5bd5wj > >> > >> If you ARE Jewish and have qualms about supporting this initiative, > > please read what I have to say below. IF YOU ARE NOT JEWISH you can > > still use this link and JUST EDIT OUT THE PHRASE "As an American Jew" > > or you can contact your Congressperson, your Senators, and Bush > > directly with BUSH AND CONGRESS CONTACT INFO AT THE END OF EMAIL. I > > will also go into more reasons why everyone should get involved in > > this now. Here is link for action. > > > > In either case you are supporting evil if you use these links. > > > >> http://ga3.org/campaign/mideast_crisis/forward/i6687gw2y5bd5wj > >> > >> American Jews should not worry that they are being "disloyal" if > > they publicly criticize the Israeli government's actions-- especially > > when these actions can be viewed as self destructive. In Israel > > itself there is always a healthy debate about government tactics and > > Jews in this country are not afraid of criticizing the government > > when it's policies are wrong-headed (like getting into the Iraqi war, > > for example). Olmert has been perceived as weak because of his lack > > of experience and now he may be overcompensating. > >> > >> Of course Israel has the right to defend itself and try to bring the > > soldiers back safely. However, according to a Reuters news article > > (among many others), besides obvious strategic targets, Israel has > > been randomly been destroying the infrastructure and killing a > > disproportionate amount of civilians all over Lebanon. Why? This > > article hypothesizes that they may want Shiites to leave the south > > for strategic reasons, but it probably won't work, will cause a major > > humanitarian crises, and would probably be considered a war crime. > > http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2006/07/19/maximal/index_np.html > > > > Why is anything from http://www.salon.com ever listed on a > > libertarian list?? > > > >> http://ga3.org/campaign/mideast_crisis/forward/i6687gw2y5bd5wj > >> > >> Israel's collective punishment and pressure on Lebanon makes no > > sense because EVERYONE ACKNOWLEDGES THAT LEBANON IS TOO WEAK TO REIN > > IN http://www.salon.com (even a right wing, pro-Israeli govt. opinion > > in the NY Post acknowledged this last Sunday). In fact, Lebanon is > > in danger of becoming a failed state, creating a vacuum for terrorism > > to flourish. There is also the danger that the conflict can spread > > and become a general middle east war. > >> > >> This policy is STREGNTHENING, NOT WEAKENING ARAB EXTREMISTS, and is > > hurting voices for peace and moderation. Although moderate Arab > > governments have voiced anger at Hizbollah for initiating this > > debacle, the Arab street is fairly unified in its anger at Israeli's > > unjustified overwhelming response and will continue to pressure their > > governments to fight Israel or at least not have dealings with them. > >> > >> http://ga3.org/campaign/mideast_crisis/forward/i6687gw2y5bd5wj > >> > >> The longer this goes on, the more innocent civilians are killed and > > the more the infrastructure of Lebanon is destroyed, the more > > difficult for Arab governments to resist this pressure. Further, the > > greater the carnage, the more terrorists will be recruited, and the > > more difficult for moderate Arabs to increase any peace talks. And > > of course, the longer this goes on, the more Israeli (as well as > > Arab) innocent victims there will be (no matter how many Hibollah > > missiles are destroyed, many more will reach their intended victims > > unless there is a cease fire), and the more likely the soldiers of > > which this is supposedly all about will be killed. Once there is a > > cease fire, then negotiations may resolve all outstanding problems. > > At least there is a chance. Right now there is only death and > > destruction. > > > > If you do not like what is going on then support finding and killing > > every member of Hizbollah. > > > > They bare the blame for this. > > > >> An ongoing cycle of violence has never worked and will not work > > now. More and more people just keep dying and getting hurt and angry > > on each side, creating more retaliatory violence, ad infinitum. > > > > "An ongoing cycle of violence" continues only when the bad guys are > > not killed. > > > >> Take Action > >> http://ga3.org/campaign/mideast_crisis/forward/i6687gw2y5bd5wj > >> > >> IF YOU WANT TO CONTACT BUSH DIRECTLY > >> Please send your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> Comments: 202-456-1111 > >> Switchboard: 202-456-1414 > >> FAX: 202-456-2461 > >> > >> IF YOU WANT TO CONTACT CONGRESS DIRECTLY > >> go here and put zip code in upper left hand to write email to > > Congressperson and Senators and phone/fax > >> http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home > >> > >> For more info here is a resource page about the middle east > >> http://www.btvshalom.org/resources/mideast_crisis.shtml > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. 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