Paul,

The Palestinian people do own the land, do exist, and have suffered terrible
injustice at the hands of the Israeli government.

Please do not call me a liar; you know that I believe what I am writing.  I
also am very, very, certain of these facts.  I did not believe it myself
until I did extensive research.

Governments, however, do lie. The call it "psy-ops" or "PR" or formerly
"propaganda" but governments  do make official policies of lying.

The Palestinians do exist, are not nomads, and owned their land.  Some have
appeared on television showing their deeds.  The UN claims to have a
depository of land records preserved for the day when the Palestinians get
to return.

If Israeli government officials say the Palestinians do not exist, (and some
have said so), they are lying.

As for the Rocky Mountain people, they owned their land too.  They called
themselves things like Apache and Dakota, we insisted on calling them
"Flatheads" or "Sioux", but they did not go away.  They have been cheated
very badly by the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

The Palestinians have a right to their private property.  It belongs to
them, just as much as the private land of Europe belongs to the citizens,
not to the monarchs.

Best regards

Harland Harrison


Paul Ireland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Harland, don't intersperse your comments within my post.  It makes
> things hard to follow for the readers.
> 
> You falsely claim that the Palestinians (there are no such people)
> built orchards and homes on land they owned for hundreds of years.
> This is an outright lie.  First there are no "Palestinian" people
> anymore than there are "Rocky Mountain People".  There has never been
> a nation of "Palestine" during the entire recorded history of the
> world.   The squatters in that area who built orchards or homes, did
> so on land they did not own.  In fact they didn't own a single grain
> of sand, let alone the houses they built on someone else's land.
> 
> They didn't own land.  They were evacuated from land they did not own
> and were given some land for the first time in all of humanity in
> 1949.  But rather than be grateful that they finally actually own
> land, they attacked the Jewish people who were moving in to the land
> they legitimately and honestly owned.  They cowardly murdered women
> and children rather than face those they claim were their enemy.
> 
> The Jewish people gave the squatters an adequate amount of time to
> evacuate the land they NEVER owned before coming in and forcing those
> who remained to either leave or be killed for refusing to leave.
> 
> You further lie by claiming the land was privately owned by the
> fictional "Palestinian" people which again is completely and totally
> false.  They didn't own the land.  They didn't own a single square
> inch of it.
> 
> Squatters have no rights, and no ownership of land they squat on.  It
> doesn't matter if they squat for 1 day or 1000 years.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> --- In [email protected], Harland Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> Since when do the people of that region follow English common law?
>>> I don't even subscribe to it.
>> They may not.  But the message claimed that the UK won the land
>> of the Palestinians from the Turks, in World War I, and then gave
>> it to the Jews.
>> Surely the UK must follow their own laws.  Under British law the
>> Palestinians should have owned their own land; it would not have
>> belonged to the government.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Whether or not someone would have a measure of ownership in common
>>> law, or any other law is irrelevant.  This isn't about what is legal
>>> or illegal, it's about what is right and wrong.
>> Exactly. The Palestinians built villages, farms, and orchards, on
>> the land they owned for hundreds of years.  The Israeli army
>> attacked them, killing many civilians, and destroying their villages.
>> Hundreds of thousands fled in 1949, and have been living in refugee
>> camps, raising their children and  grandchildren, ever since.
>> There are over 400,000 Palestinian refugees still in Lebanon, today.
>> The Israeli government will not let them return  home.
>> This is clearly wrong.
>> 
>>> 
>>> When you own land, it's yours and nobody else's forever.  No person,
>>> group of people, or government have any legitimate claim to it,
>>> whether in easements, squatter rights, or anything else.
>> Yes, and the land of people of Palestine belongs to them.  Private
>> property  cannot be "honestly acquired" by war. It rightfully belongs
>> to the private owner, no matter what governments may do.
>> 
>>> 
>>> No person, group of people, or government has any legitimate authority
>>> to tell you what you can or can't do on your own land assuming your
>>> actions don't infringe on the equal rights of others or trespass
>>> against them such as ground water pollution.
>> I agree.  Why should the Israeli government be any exception?
>> 
>> Harland Harrison
>> Libertarian Party of San Mateo County CA
> 
> 




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