Hey, does that "600" List include Don Gorman up in New Hampshire who 
was elected on both the Libertarian and Republican lines?  


--- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The RLC hs never gotten a single person elected to office, 
libertarian
> or otherwise; not one.  Also, the Republican party has no 
libertarians
> in it and that includes Ron Paul.
> 
> The Libertarian Party on the other hand has gotten over 600
> libertarians elected.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg"
> <ericdondero@> wrote:
> >
> > Outstanding question Matt.  And welcome to our Forum.  
> > 
> > Here's my thoughts on the matter.
> > 
> > I think there was a groundswell of support for libertarian 
ideals in 
> > the late 1970s and early 1980s.  This all culminated in the 
highly 
> > successful Ed Clark, Libertarian for President Campaign in 1980 
(and 
> > to a lesser extent Ron Paul's LP Presidential Campaign in 
1988).  It 
> > also resulted in 3 Libertarians being elected to the Alaska 
> > Legislature, and scores of Libertarians winning nationwide for 
local 
> > offices.
> > 
> > Since then. the Libertarian Party has experienced a serious 
decline 
> > in electoral victories and Presidential vote totals.  
> > 
> > In 1990, Libertarian Party members started joining the GOP, and 
> > formed the Republican Liberty Caucus.
> > 
> > Since then, virtually all of the major libertarian electoral 
> > victories have been a result of the RLC, not the LP.
> > 
> > The LP's decline has seriously hurt the Liberty Movement.  I 
don't 
> > see a "libertarian groundswell" out there any more like there 
was in 
> > the '80s.
> > 
> > The RLC has been only partially successful.  It has succeeded in 
> > getting libertarians elected to office in a spotty fashion; 1 
guy in 
> > Maine, another guy in Alaska, 2 guys down in Texas, 2 guys in 
> > Colorado, and so on.
> > 
> > The RLC has not succeeded in electing enough libertarians to 
make a 
> > difference.  It's more like "Oh ya, that odd libertarian guy we 
have 
> > in our GOP Caucus here in the 'Pick-your-State' Legislature..."
> > 
> > Unless libertarians of all stripes get super-serious about 
politics 
> > and trade in the on-line blogging and LP supper club monthly 
> > meetings for precinct walking, sign waving, phone banks, and 
> > fundraising for RLC-backed candidates, we are never going to 
succeed.
> > 
> > The entire libertarian movement, both LP and RLC, needs to 
transform 
> > itself into a libertarian version of the Club for Growth.  
> > 
> > I invite you to check out my web site which advocates this 
approach:
> > 
> > www.mainstreamlibertarian.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "matthew_reider" 
> > <matthew_reider@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Full disclosure: I am neither a libertarian nor a fan of 
> > unregulated
> > > capitalism.  But I am earnest in trying to figure out where
> > > Libertarians stand - and I am not here to pick a fight.
> > > 
> > > It seems like the Libertarian argument has gained some 
strength in 
> > the
> > > last decade or more.  This correlates to the strength of the 
fiscal
> > > conservative viewpoint and republican success over Democrats in
> > > representative government.
> > > 
> > > It is my belief that these trends have much to do with one 
another 
> > and
> > > that Republicans have done a good job of co-opting the 
Libertarian
> > > agenda while not following that agenda whatsoever.  Reagan was 
the
> > > first in a line of contemporary republicans who appealed to the
> > > public's sense  of paranoia about "big government" and started 
what
> > > became a twenty-five year republican mission to dismantle many 
of 
> > the
> > > federally funded social programs established by Reagan's 
> > predecessors.
> > > 
> > > My question to the group looks something like this:  Do you 
> > generally
> > > agree that Libertarian ideology has helped to elect people 
like 
> > George
> > > W. Bush to the white house and, if so, do you find this 
troubling?
> > > 
> > > Thanks for considering my question!
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Matt
> > >
> >
>









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