Cory Nott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Vic, you seem to have fallen prey to the overly simplistic black/white > labelling of politicial ideas in the US. Socialists can be conservative or > progressive. Hayek pointed out in the Road to Serfdom that conservatives tend > to be overly awed by authority, and I'm sure that you'll find many > "left-wing" Democrats exhibit that sort of awe. > > You are correct that Nazism was socialism, born of liberal/progressive > ideas, but it was also marked by a philosophy of paternalism - the sort of > thing that conservatives tend to favor. > > The neoconservative movement in the US today is a fine example of > conservative classic socialism. "Neocons" have no problem with big government > and socialist policies, but they want it implemented in a manner that doesn't > defeat their moral values. They may rail against welfare programs, but only > because such programs tend to break up families and encourage > single-motherhood, not because it costs the taxpayers money and expands the > government. >
I dont disagree, was however pointing that nazies are not off to the far right as some people seem to think. nazies are not conservatives with attitude. I also agree that there are various factions in the right wing, with religious values being prominent. I also think that liberatarians have at least more in common with the right wing then with the left, even if only because the right have more overlap of goals albeit for different reasons. the lefts underlying principles revolve around variations of egalitarianism which I consider diametrically opposite to freedom. imo if liberatarians are ever going to achieve anything politically it is by becoming a greater force within the republican party. not what some people want to hear but thats just my view. the fact some liberatarians measure LP sucess by whores, drugs, booze and gambling to my mind underscores the LPs self imposed divorce from mainstream society. all libertarians should mull over carefully what John Mackey says: Winning the Battle for Freedom and Prosperity http://libertyunbound.com/archive/2006_06/mackey-winning.html Vic ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
