Are you saying that a marriage is a woman sumitting herself totally to
the will of her husband?  Don't dance around the issue Dave.


--- In [email protected], "David Macko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How can you or anyone calling him or herself a libertarian
> deny a woman the right to submit herself totally to the will of
> her husband if she so wishes?
> It is totally illogical to recognize the right of a woman to become
> a harlot, slut, old maid, manhating b*tch (so long as she does not
> aggress) a 50-50 marriage partner (the current divorce rate) or a
> lesbian but not recognize her right to become a wife in a traditional
> marriage, even though hundreds of millions of women have chosen
> this path for millennia.
> If you cannot recognize the total illogic of such a position, then I
> think it is futile to try to educate and enlighten you further.
> 
> For life, liberty, justice and peace,
> David Macko
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Paul 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 2:06 PM
>   Subject: Contracts, Marital and Otherwise was Re: [Libertarian]
Re: The Fallacy of Open I
> 
> 
>   Wives should OBEY? Does this mean the husband is the BOSS of the wife
>   and gives orders to the wife? Is the wife subservient to the husband
>   or are they equal partners?
> 
>   --- In [email protected], "David Macko" <dmacko@> wrote:
>   >
>   > I was not necessarily endorsing the idea generally. However, if I
>   had a wife
>   > and I found her voluntarily serving the pleasure of another man, the
>   thought
>   > just might cross my mind. Also, if I were on the jury for the trial
>   of a man
>   > who lost his temper over such an outrage, I might well let him off.
>   > I agree with you 99%. I don't view wives as slaves either.
Slaves obey
>   > through fear. Wives should obey through love. I would not even
advocate
>   > government intrusion into contracts where the poor p*ssywh*pp*d male
>   > did not require his wife to serve his pleasure wherever, whenever
>   and however
>   > he wished.
>   > Also, as I previously stated, there have been some quite good
>   outcomes from
>   > miscegenation and it should not be outlawed, although as you noted I
>   do think
>   > that there were a lot of bad outcomes.
>   > By the way, have you ever wondered why it is perfectly ok to want to
>   preserve
>   > some endangered species such as whales while it brings opprobrium,
>   insult and
>   > downright hate to want to preserve other endangered groups such as
>   white people?
>   > I hope that this clarifies my views.
>   > 
>   > For life, liberty, justice and peace,
>   > David Macko
>   > 
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: James Landrith 
>   > To: [email protected] 
>   > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:35 AM
>   > Subject: RE: Contracts, Marital and Otherwise was Re:
>   [Libertarian] Re: The Fallacy of Open I
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Wow. You think killing adulterers is a good idea? Would this be
>   another
>   > government intrusion in the bedroom, or just simple murder by her
>   husband
>   > that would be smiled upon by government? If she violates her
marriage
>   > contract, why is murder the first thought you can come up with?
>   Why not
>   > divorce? Why not sue for damages?
>   > 
>   > Why is killing women such a good idea to you?
>   > 
>   > As a libertarian, I favor getting government out of the marriage
>   equation
>   > all together. No licenses. No data tracking. No interference or
>   referees.
>   > Private arbitration. The REAL libertarian solution. Further, I
>   don't view
>   > women as property, potentially subject to government sanctioned
>   murder by
>   > her husband for the crime of spreading her legs. And no, your life
>   boat
>   > scenario (always a favorite of those grasping at straws) of STDs
>   doesn't
>   > justify government sanctioned slaughter of unfaithful wives.
>   > 
>   > Call me crazy, but I don't have such murderous desires or view my
>   wife as
>   > property. 
>   > 
>   > But then, I'm a dirty miscegenationist mongrel myself. I can't be
>   expected
>   > to know any better. Macko has the scientific "proof" to back it up
>   - Haiti
>   > and Egypt. 
>   > 
>   > Enough said.
>   > 
>   > __________________________________________________________
>   > James Landrith
>   > james@
>   > cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547
>   > AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159
>   > MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith
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>   > __________________________________________________________
>   > 
>   > _____ 
>   > 
>   > From: [email protected]
>   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>   > Behalf Of David Macko
>   > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:00 AM
>   > To: [email protected]
>   > Subject: Re: Contracts, Marital and Otherwise was Re:
>   [Libertarian] Re: The
>   > Fallacy of Open I
>   > 
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: David Macko 
>   > To: Libertarian@ <mailto:Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>
>   yahoogroups.com 
>   > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:50 AM
>   > Subject: Re: Contracts, Marital and Otherwise was Re:
>   [Libertarian] Re: The
>   > Fallacy of Open I
>   > 
>   > You bring up a very important point for a future libertarian
society.
>   > The government and the establishment media encourage all manner
>   > of "diversity". In a libertarian society, it would be most wise to
>   encourage
>   > people with diverse beliefs and behaviors not to live together.
>   > In the theoretical libertarian town about which we are speaking,
>   if half
>   > the population regards adultery as a crime which justifies an
outraged
>   > husband
>   > to take direct action, somewhat in the manner that you would take
>   direct
>   > action against someone breaking into your house at 3:00 AM and the
>   other
>   > half regards adultery and the seduction of other men's wives as
no big
>   > thing,
>   > the result will be civil war between those of you who want to kill
>   cuckolded
>   > husbands and those of us who would not condemn them for permanently
>   > eliminating the adulterers who had violated their rights as
husbands.
>   > 
>   > For life, liberty, justice and peace,
>   > David Macko
>   > 
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>   >
> 
> 
> 
>    
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>










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