Vic, Again you use the state of the current world (status quo) to defend it. This is very conspicuous when done in the process of promoting liberty. You claim to advocate liberty, but denounce habeas corpus for foreigners. (I imagine you've been pretty happy about its recent elimination here.)
Your seriously anti-libertarian comments beg the repetition: Which libertarian elements do you endorse and why? I assume you endorse SOME or you would not be here. (THAT may be a much shorter and more efficient discussion.) -Mark ++++++++++++++ ma ni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ma ni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Vic, > > > > 1.) Your three sentences are not coherent. Please proof read > > them. But I think I know what you are claiming: to advocate the > > expansion of liberty; yet the details of it indicate > aggression. > > so what?? why should you not agress against people that are > antithetical > to liberty??? > > ---------------- > Yes, you are correct; you would be "aggressing". And therefore > you should not do it for several reasons. Firstly, because you > have not specified the persons you charge; OR even specified the > charges (other than being "antithetical to liberty"); let alone > provided habeas corpus or due process or fair trials or even > evidence of crimes. there is no habeas corpus nor due process nor such a thing as fair trials between countries. there is no taking anyone in a foreign country that is hostile to us, to court. I really have no idea why this red herring is even brought up in this discussion. the only option is to apply pressure at a national level, sanctions etc and if that fails use force to get the outcome you want. so again I am asking why is one country not allowed to agress against another that which holds an ideaology that is antithetical to freedom. and why is agression against a country that is engaged in killing some minority not allowed? Vic ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
