if the sex is conentual then its not pefophilla and non of the 
sexpartners are children, if any of the sex partners is a child and 
the other is an adult the adult is agressing against the child, the 
jury and courts can determine if the male or female is a child or 
adult, legislation on age of consent might help at the county level 
in most states or even the state level in a small compact state like 
New Hampshire, Vermont, Maine or Delaware but the legislation  can 
only be a guideline for contracts and  giving law enforcement 
officers and prosecutors some protection against lawsuits but 
legislation should never be the last word over due process in any 
matter including age of consent.--- In [email protected], 
Vic Cinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ma ni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Vic,
> > 
> > I what you are saying is you don't think libertarian philosophy
> > views pedophilia as aggression, you would be incorrect.
> > Pedophilia, being a non-consensual sex crime that has a direct
> > victim, is true initiated aggression. (Just curious: where did
> > you get the idea that is wasn't?)
> 
> I think youll find that most paedophiles work on getting what they 
want
> in a consensual manner. there is rarely aggression, when there is
> agression it make headlines and is not good for business. you are
> probably thinking of men in coats nabing kids into cars after
> offering them lolies.
> 
> most acts are done from relatives, friends, neighbours or employs 
etc winning trust of
> parents and seducing a child when the parents are not about. the 
harm
> only occurs in the eyes of the parents and others. its not until the
> child sees the response in others that they consider any harm has 
taken place.
> 
> what you have here in the usual cases, is no real physical agression
> but a moral agression.
> 
> a simple non agression pact does not cover this case, because what a
> parent wants is a moral pact, that says you dont apply your morality
> on my child.
> 
> Vic
>



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