It is what I call The Establisment Liberals that far more often than 
not are for heavy gun control ie only the police and miltary having 
gunsThis group use to be called the North Eastern Establisment 
Liberal but since the spread of the mainstream media out of the North 
east I think it is better to call them the EStablisment or Mainstream 
Liberals. A liberal Democrat living in the Heartland or in the poor 
inner sectors of major cities knows better than to give up their 
guns.                                                                 
      Of course The Bush Adminstration has been a cruel enforcer of 
unconstitutional gun laws having federal agents work with local 
police, putting out those silly guncrime ads on TV. They busted some 
old man in very bad health here in TN. a few years back at a gun show 
but the judge had some sense he was not going to send that man to 
prison. JUst two or three weeks ago  Bush's federal storm troopers 
got the court to sentence a couple of guys to prison for converting a 
couple of rifles to full 
auto.                                                       
    That police wedding party shooting up in Queens was cops snopping 
around looking for a gun. --- In [email protected], Corey 
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>   i do not understand why so many conservatives believe liberals 
are so against people owning guns?
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>   whenever i go to a website that speaks about "patriotism", they 
seem to be republican christians, who hate liberals.
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>   i am a liberal
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>   i am a patriot
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>   i dont own a gun, but believe someday i may need one to defend 
myself against a government gone crazy.
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>   i do not know of any liberals that want to ban people from having 
guns.
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>   it is similar to the immigration issue...as long as it is done 
legally, liberals support it.
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>   it would be unpatriotic for anyone who defends the first 
amendment to be against the second.
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>   most liberals defend the first amendment. 
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>   so i would assume most defend the rest of the bill of rights and 
constitution.
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>   Take Our Guns - Take Our Lives
> Socialistic liberal groups, legislative representatives on both the 
state and federal levels, the courts - and yes some governors - have 
made great strides in their attack upon the second amendment 
guarantee of our right to keep and bear arms. It's time – no it's way 
past time – to fight back.....
> http://www.newswithviews.com/Schwiesow/jim8.htm
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created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the 
pursuit of Happiness...."
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