Nothing is wrong with them, though your mistaken view is common and 
understandable. 

What is any worse about communism than any other sustem of 
goverment? Your bias is likely derived from the fact that in recent 
times the greatest enemy of the west, likely through the duration of 
your developing years, was communism. Make no mistake, the Soviet 
Union under Stalin was a bad thing. I do not see a bias in that and 
it is my feelings aswell. 

There is however a difference between Marxism and Stalinism and to 
my understanding, the end goal of Marxism is the very same end goal 
of die hard libertarian hardliners. Both thier endstate and the 
Marxist end state is no state at all.

So what could be the primary difference if we remove the bias? Well 
the bias we must remove is corruptions and the evil of Stalinism. It 
is critisized in your article thier belief that communism is 
democratic for instance. Though both the article and your reactions 
imply that communism is inherently undemocratic however this is not 
true, this is the inherant bias of those viewing exhisting examples 
of Communism in our lifetimes such as Red China and Soviet Russia. 
We can find examples of capitolist 'democratic' depots in our life 
times as well however due to the reality that in our life time none 
of them have been so influential on us as these large communist 
states it is easy for your mind to overlook them when developing 
your bias.

The enemy is not communism, it is coruption, control and various 
human evils wich are a part of our race as a whole and not a part of 
any one particular form of government. 

So what is that difference I spoke of between the two endstates that 
are not states? It is of course the motivations and means to those 
ends. In those liberty minded Marxists the the lower classes are 
victims of a controlling upper class wich may or may not use the 
government to further thier own agendas and benifit themselves 
directly. So you don't sign on to this, yet you still sign on to the 
end state, what do you become? One of you would be best to answer 
that question rather than me, because for me you could only become, 
for example Stalinist. Using centralized power to further your 
personal goals. Stalin used the comunist government for this. This 
would certainly NOT be the means of power and control for those 
libertarian extremists who would seek to control you in a manner not 
pertaining to goverment but still none the less unlibertarian. 

They are often governed by the belief that success makes self 
evident those worthy of success, and should other succede in a 
manner that prevents them from excelling to the level the desire 
they identify it as an evil for they feel confident in thier 
superiority and they themselves should be succesfull. Now I realize 
I am not the greatest comunicator so I know the meaning of what I 
said will be lost on alot of people, if you got my point and can 
explain it better for me please do.

The bottom line for me is that Liberty can be userped not merely by 
goverment, but by any individual. The idea that forms of goverment 
are more or less condusive to liberty is a bias that I do not belive 
can be factualy supported. The real enemy to libertey is corruption, 
state or no state corruption will independantly threaten liberty.

The real mind bender is that Liberty and Justice were the desired 
end goals of the modern state, and now those claiming to seak 
liberty have forgotten so much of the past that they attack the 
state, not corruption as the main oponenet of liberty. 

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