This is, because Marxist ideas are rejected by a different class of 
totalitarian. To impose Marxism into a comunist system you must of 
course be imposing. To the best of my understanding, those students 
are not seeking to impose marxism through a comunist super state 
mechanism. 

I know this is your bias, but your need to explain it confirms what 
I expected and did say, that my poor delivery will cause many to 
miss the point I was trying to make, leaving the knee jerk reaction 
of ooooo comunism is evil because of dictators. Dictators are evil, 
comunism is nothing more than the idea of caring about your fellow 
man, a human comunity in cooperation.

Lets look at a piece of American history for proper perspective on 
the reality that man is corrupt, not the system. You presumably 
defend the capitalistic democracy, I make that presumption only for 
the sake of making the above point. 

Our founding father George Washington failed to attempt diplomatic 
efforts with Spain to open the Missisipi to traffic of American 
goods in the new countries interior. Trafficking goods from the 
interior to East coast was made difficult by the rocky mountanous 
wilderness and lack of infrustructure seperating the east from the 
interior. The primary motivation for not expending any effort to 
this goal was Washingtons land speculation. He had purchased mid 
area lands that stood to be a lucrative investment if the 
preeminance of the east was maintained and a suitable trafficking 
route established into the interior from his lands. 

This is a bad enough example of corruption but it does not stop 
here. Farmers unable to turn a proffit transporting thier grain to 
the east began distilling it and transporting whiskey instead as it 
was more lucrative to ship just the whiskey. The freemarket found a 
way to rectify this political inactivty.

However the powers that be could not leave well enough alone. 
Hamilton began to squeeze these interior farmers dry by impossing a 
whiskey tax wich benifited eastern megaproducers make the comunity 
stills to the west unprofitable. Combined with land indebtedness 
they were pushed to the brink and the militia began to speak of 
revolt. Now all of this could have been avoided by simply doing 
nothing but the men in power would not do this. This is indeed the 
oposite of the Marxist ideal with the poor working farmers, working 
together as a comunity to turn a prophet from thier endevours. The 
other side fits perfectly with clasic antagonist of the 
proletariate. The land speculator politician failing in his duities 
intentionaly for personal gain, the political ally of big buisness 
putting down the efforts of the working class to raise itself up.

How is this anything less than Tyrany? Do you believe it is less 
Tyranical because they are not killing thier own citizens? Well, we 
are not done with the story my friend. 

This revolt was not merely expected by Hamilton it was very likely 
intended. Hamilton had many motives for mobilizing the continental 
army, wich I will not go into here further. Also in the interior was 
a waining military industrial complex of supply lines from the 
Indian wars. These men, from Washington and Hamilton to retiered 
supply officers in the west fed the revult only to gain aproval for 
the mobilization of the continental army to put down that revult. I 
don't have time to look up the causualty count, it was not 
astronomical if I remmeber right but it was very real. Men who 
wanted nothing more than work thier farm and raise thier family were 
caught between militia radicals calling for independance and the US 
government. At first the militia was the imdeiate threat, and 
subjected to intimidation were publicly pro militia regaurdless of 
private positions on the matter. Some men worked with the militia 
only in the intrest of being a moderating voice trying to prevent 
violence but on the arival of the Army they will all insurgents. 
Many were marched over the mountains in the winter to the east for 
trials, not quite as many completed that march.

One form of goverment is not inately supperior to anouther form.

As far all examples of marxism being dictatorships, you look at big 
goverment. Do you feel big goverment is a necesity? I do not. I know 
that growing up there was a commune not more than a mile down the 
road. Many families voluntarily lived in a large house they had, and 
they ran a farm. They also gave second chances to people who needed 
a helping hand and could not get that second chance from the rest of 
society. It was in retrospect a very noble thing of them to do, that 
embodied both Marxism and liberties ideal of governing and the 
smallest level.

Statism is evil, Marxism is not unless used as a tool of Statism. 
While the largest examples of Marxism are some of the worst examples 
of Statism, there is a wealth of Statist monsters thorught history 
both modern and ancient that have nothing to do with Marxism.

I only seek to clearify our enemy, for it is real, and we need all 
the support and help we can get in confrunting it. If thier are 
Marxists out there who though Marxist reject statism,  are they not 
our allies ever still? If not, at the least if there is an entity 
out there that rejects Marxism, and while embracing capitolism also 
embraces statism are they not more the enemy still and in that fact 
our common enemy?


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