So, for America, you prefer 'National Socialism' over actual freedom of market and enterprise?
-Terry Liberty Parker InterNetPlayback: Last Nite's Call-inTV- USA Immigration at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TerryLiberty/message/413 --- In [email protected], K B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I still don't have the time to properly reply to your thoughtful critique, but I'll throw in a little more "red meat" just for fun!! When I said Darwinistic, I meant that so many foreign nationals want to join our much superior, though far from perfect, society that we can now afford to meticulously "cherry pick" the best and brightest, the ones who will profit us the most! A good place to start would be to study Mexico's requirements, which include such things as income requirements! No longer do we have to take the refuse of the world in order to increase our population and our productivity. But before we can do any of this, we must control our borders and expel illegals already here, preferably by making life so difficult for them that they will expel themselves! Now, is that Darwinistic enough? > > K B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A lot of "meat" here to digest and no time. Get tback to it later, but thanks for a rational critique. However, I have said that people on this site exhibit above average intelligence, including those of us with advanced grammar courses. You can forego the definitions. I'll get back to the core of your medssage when I have a little more time. > > Terry L Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Main Entry: na·tionstate > Pronunciation: \ˈnâ-shən-ˈstât, -ˌstât\ > Function: noun > Date: 1918 > : a form of political organization under which a relatively > homogeneous people inhabits a sovereign state; especially : a state > containing one as opposed to several nationalities > at http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nation-state > > Main Entry: so·cial·ism > Pronunciation: \ˈsô-shə-ˌli-zəm\ > Function: noun > Date: 1837 > 1: any of various economic and political theories advocating > collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means > of production and distribution of goods > at http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism > > Main Entry: para·noia > Pronunciation: "per-&-'noi-&, "pa-r&- > Function: noun > Etymology: New Latin, from Greek, madness, from paranous demented, > from para- + nous mind > 1 : a psychosis characterized by systematized delusions of > persecution or grandeur usually without hallucinations > 2 : a tendency on the part of an individual or group toward excessive > or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others > at http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/paranoia > > Main Entry: xe·no·pho·bia > Pronunciation: "ze-n&-'fO-bE-&, "zE- > Function: noun > Etymology: New Latin > : fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is > strange or foreign > at http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/xenophobia > > Main Entry: 1prej·u·dice > Pronunciation: 'pre-j&-d&s > Function: noun > Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin praejudicium > previous judgment, damage, from prae- + judicium judgment -- more at > JUDICIAL > .... > 2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion > or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge > b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational > attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a > race, or their supposed characteristics > at http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/prejudice > > consistent LIBERTARIANISM (and the best of America's ideals) holds > that where formal govt exists, *IT* is subordinate to the peaceful > and honest individual persons affected; NOT the other way around! > > What's at the Heart of What Libertarians are Selling? > > Comprehend, embrace, be consistent to, and promote this: > > 'Reciprocal physical comprehensive autonomy for each person' > refers to a society in which each person is sovereign > (aka individual sovereignty) over a physical domain > that consists of their own body and honestly held possessions; > and a 'truce' on physical aggression by one person against another. > > That does not necessarily describe an atomistic society with no > interactions between these 'sovereign domains' It just means that > any physical interaction must be CONSENSUAL rather than the only > alternative option, COERCIVE. Libertarians advocate a 'consensual > society' over the 'coercive society' of authoritarians. > > Libertarianism's 'physical aggression truce' premise (aka > NAP 'non-aggression principle' & ZAP 'zero aggression principle') > thus accommodates a just and broad array of choices by > free moral agents EXCEPT for the INITIATION, or credible threat > of initiation, of physical force against the person > or justly acquired possessions of another. > > also see 'LIMITED vs UNIVERSAL Libertarianism' > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/56213 > > Libertarians are NOT 'know it alls' so it's now up to some of you in > the audience to tell us, how consistency to this principle would > improve that part of society in which YOU are the expert. > > -Terry Liberty Parker > 'Real World' famous LIBERTARIAN community experiment > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/2569 > > --- In [email protected], K B <kenbrewerus@> wrote: > > > > Nationalism is neither statism nor socialism! > > > Maintaining our national sovereignty is what enables us to exercise > our individual rights. The foreign invasion is not just that of > ethnicity: it is of ideas, such as an entitlement society which does > not recognize individual rights and responsibilities. These ideals re > becoming predominant in this country due in part, to the export of > poverty to our country from Mexico, and the socialist mentality of > Mexican peasantry. Examples are land redistribution and sanctuary, > imported directly from Mexico and Latin America. Yes, these ideas are > from Europe, but in Texas, they come largely from Mexico. Then there > is the role of students and student demonstrations. Being Libertarian > does not mean that we are cowards who refuse to defend this country > and our freedoms. It does not mean that we accept no responsibility, > and it does not mean that we are anarchists. It also does not mean > that we are bound to extend American citizenship to every > > person who wants it in this world. Requirements for citizenship > for immigrants can, and should, be brutally Darwinistic and exclusive. > > > > liberty@> wrote: AUTHORITARIAN Statist Socialism places > sovereignty of a nation above > > that of each individual person; a betrayal of the best of American > > ideals. > > > > LIBERTARIAN consistency places sovereignty of each individual > > person above all else; constrained only by a 'physical aggression > > truce' > > > > see: What's at the Heart of What Libertarians are Selling? > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/56266 > > > > -Terry Liberty Parker > > > > --- In [email protected], K B <kenbrewerus@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your implication TODAY/Gallup Poll taken last weekend found that > > 78% of respondents feel people now in the country illegally should > be > > given a chance at citizenship. > > > ___ Your implication is that those of us who oppose illegal > > immigration are prejudiced, xenophobic morons (which definition you > > somehow omitted). Many would apply that term to anyone who even > uses > > the terminology "illegal alien." The term is accurate, and those > who > > condemn its use are doing so using the rationale of Plitical > > Correctness. To me, the whole rationale of Political Correctness is > > anathema to the philosophy of Lebertarianism. I believe that one > can > > be both Libertarian and patriotic, believing in the uniqueness, the > > exceptionality and the sovereignty of the United States, while > > believing in individual freedom. As to the 78%:"Six million > Frenchmen > > can be wrong!" That, too, is a basic tenet of Libertarianism as I > > perceive it. Furthermore, the 12 million figure is a joke. The > figure > > I've seen is that 10% of Mexico's population is in this country. We > > need to enforce our immigration laws vigorously, starting with > strict > > and severe employer sanctions. That is > > > why I consider Bush a traitor. 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