I read the bill that was passed rather than the media. It applies
wherever federal funds are used and so says "public buildings." If your
state, county, city, school, or hospital gets federal funds, then it is
a "public building."  Since I use non-incandescent bulbs for many things
in my home, it is a good deal for me. It will make those less expensive.
They last longer and put out more light for what power they use. I think
the govenment should spend our money wisely, but if you want to pay for
more power to get a lower quality of light in your home, that is up to
you. I have to have "natural light" 365 days a year, so in the winter I
have to have the lights on longer.

This is like the propaganda that the Kennedy-McCain bill had amnesty in
it. Amnesty is a general pardon. The bill includes fines & fees
($7,000), starting at the beginning of the five year process of
naturalization, getting a "green card," learning English, and learning
civics (our basic laws and rights).

As I have said before, it makes a good scary story and the writers do
not let the truth (Congressional Record) get in the way. I am not saying
whatever is in the record is true, but the law as passed and who voted
for it is in there.
--- In [email protected], "Bob Giramma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> I did a quick search and read several news articles, but not one of
them
> said the incandescent bulb ban applies only to the federal government.
All
> the articles described a ban on incandescent bulbs for all consumers.
Are
> you sure of your claim?
>
> _____
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Omar Khyam
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:48 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Libertarian] A Nation of Dim Bulbs: Bush's energy bill
bans
> incandescent bulbs
>
>
>
> That law requires they be used in Federal buildings, not private
homes. It
> also requires the fuel economy standard have the bar raised for
government
> cars. I have no problem with employees driving cars from the carpool
that
> are more fuel efficient.
>
> Of course, never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
>
> The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings;
the
> inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. --
Winston
> Churchill
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Bob Giramma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> com>
> To: Libertarian@ <mailto:Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:10:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [Libertarian] A Nation of Dim Bulbs: Bush's energy bill
bans
> incandescent bulbs
>
> Wouldn't it be funny if street gangs started selling incandescent
bulbs on
> the black market?
>
> _____
>
> From: Libertarian@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Libertarian@ yahoogroups.
com]
> On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:31 PM
> To: libertarian@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [Libertarian] A Nation of Dim Bulbs: Bush's energy bill bans
> incandescent bulbs
>
> Synopsis: The 2007 energy bill in the long run will cause more
problems.
> To expand discussion this gives prelude context for "incandescents"
exit.
>
> A Nation of Dim Bulbs
>
> The nasty little surprise hidden in the new energy bill.
>
> by Andrew Ferguson in Weekly Standard, 12/31/2007, Vol. 013
>
> On Dec. 19, President Bush signed an energy bill that will, among
many, many
>
> other things, force you to buy a new kind of light bulb. He did this
because
>
> environmental enthusiasts don't like the light bulbs you're using now.
He
> and they reason, therefore, that you shouldn't be allowed to have
them. .
>
> Ordinary consumers may be surprised, once they understand what's
happened.
> They probably haven't known that the traditional incandescent light
bulb,
> that
> happy little globe shining so innocently ., has been a scourge of
> environmentalists for many years. With their stern and unrelenting
moralism,
> the
> warriors of Greenpeace have even branded lightbulb manufacturers
"climate
> criminals" for making incandescents, which are, they say, a "silent
killer."
> In Europe
> and in a few individual states in the U.S., professional
environmentalists
> have managed to persuade their colleagues in government to ban the
bulbs
> altogether, on the grounds that incandescents use energy
inefficiently.
>
> Ninety percent of the energy a traditional light bulb uses, for
example, is
> thrown off as heat rather than light. This waste contributes to the
> overproduction of energy from coal-fired power plants, which
contributes to
> the
> emission of carbon dioxide, which contributes to global warming. Pro.
> environmentalists prefer a different kind of bulb, the compact
fluorescent
> light (CFL),
> which is much more expensive to make and to buy but also much more
efficient
> in
> its use of energy.
>
> American environmental groups have long called for an outright
national ban
> on the old-fashioned bulbs. But then they came to the realization, as
a
> spokesman for the Natural Resources Defense Council told the New York
Times
> this
> spring, that such a ban might "anger consumers." .
>
> Instead the groups joined with the Bush administration this year in
> advocating a steady increase in federally mandated efficiency
standards for
> light
> bulbs. The effect of the tightened standards is to make it illegal to
> manufacture or sell the inefficient incandescent bulb by 2014.
> So it's not a ban, see. It's just higher standards. Which have the
same
> effect as a ban - a slow-motion ban that's not really a ban. .
[misleading
> weasel words]
>
> Some people really like the new bulbs, of course. Not all of them are
> professional environmentalists, though all of them are cheapskates.
CFLs
> produce
> the same amount of light (lumens) as an incandescent bulb while using
only
> about a quarter of the watts. With proper care and moderate use, they
can
> last as
> much as six times longer than a typical incandescent. Even if you
consider
> their higher purchase price - six or seven times the price of a
traditional
> bulb - CFLs can lower your monthly lighting bill by as much as 20
percent.
> And because they're deemed environmentally sensitive, switching them
on can
> give you the same . exaltation you get shopping for organic vegetables
..
> Then
> you can donate the money you've saved on your electric bill to the
Natural
> Resources Defense Council or the . Bush Presidential Library.
>
> Other people, however, perhaps a very large number, will prefer the
old,
> pre-Bush bulbs. Their reasons have less to do .with the inconveniences
of
> the
> CFL. The new bulbs are particularly vulnerable to extremes of
temperature,
> for
> example; you won't want to use them in your garage in winter. CFLs are
also
> 25 percent longer in size than the average incandescent. This makes
them
> unsuitable for all kinds of lighting fixtures - particularly
chandeliers and
>
> other ceiling lights - which will have to be either discarded or
> reconfigured,
> at considerable expense, after the Bush ban goes into effect. You
can't use
> most CFLs with dimmer switches, either; ditto timers. .
>
> The quality of the light given off by CFLs is quite different from
what
> we're used to from incandescents. The old bulb concentrates its light
> through a
> small surface area. CFLs don't shine in beams; they glow all the way
around,
>
> diffusing their illumination. They're terrible reading lights. Many
people
> find fluorescent light itself to be harsh and unpleasant [and cause
migraine
>
> headaches]. Moreover . a CFL bulb can take two to three minutes to
reach its
>
> full illumination after being turned on. And once it's fully aglow,
> according to
> Department of Energy guidelines, you need to leave it on for at least
15
> minutes. .U.S. News and World Report explained why: "Turning a CFL on
and
> off
> frequently shortens its life."
>
> Odd, isn't it - an energy-saving device that you're not supposed to
turn
> off? Such complications undermine the extravagant claims made for the
CFLs'
> energy savings.
> Let's say you're a CFL aficionado and you want to fetch your car keys
from
> your darkened bedroom: You switch on the light, wait a couple minutes,
> finally
> find the wallet as the room slowly brightens, and then leave the light
on,
> because you don't want to shorten the life of your expensive CFL. Will
you
> remember to go back and turn it off 15 minutes later? Or will you get
in
> your
> Prius, drive to Whole Foods, and leave the light burning for several
more
> hours, while you absent-mindedly fondle the organics?
> If you're not a CFL aficionado, by contrast, you turn on the
incandescent
> light, get your car keys, and then switch it off. Who's wasting more
energy?
>
>
> Sam Kazman, of the anti-regulation Competitive Enterprise Institute,
likes
> to cite the now legendary Great Light Bulb Exchange sponsored by a
local
> power company in the tiny town of Traer, Iowa. Half the town's
residents
> turned
> in their incandescents for free CFLs - and electricity consumption
rose by 8
>
> percent. The cost of burning electricity went down, and demand
increased.
> Funny how that happens.
>
> There are other complications that might give environmentalists pause,
...
> When a CFL bulb finally dies - .it cannot be dropped in the trash like
an
> incandescent; it must be recycled by specially equipped recycling
> facilities.
> CFLs contain mercury. If one breaks in your home, Kazman says, EPA
> guidelines
> suggest you open windows and leave the room for at least a quarter of
an
> hour
> before trying to clean up the mess. And . don't use a vacuum, which
could
> disperse the poison into the air. .
>
> The mind reels at the joke-like possibilities: How many Bush
administration
> officials does it take to screw in a CFL? As many as it takes to screw
> American consumers! . In creating the ban, Bush and his
environmentalist
> allies
> were joined by Philips Lighting, which is - .the world's foremost
> manufacturer of CFLs. The phased-in ban will position Philips to crowd
from
> the market
> any troublesome competitors. It's a perfect confluence of interests:
the Big
>
> Environmental Lobby, Big Business, and Big Government 'Conservatives.
'
>
> But back to the screwees - those American consumers, also known, not
so long
>
> ago, as the citizens of the United States, a free people, rulers of
the
> world's proudest self-governing nation. Will there be protests of some
kind,
>
> expressions of disgust at least? And what if there aren't? What if, as
the
> ban
> slowly tightens, we hear nothing, not a howl, not a peep, just a long
mellow
>
> moo? Then maybe it really will be time to turn out the lights.
>
> Andrew Ferguson is a senior editor at THE WEEKLY STANDARD.
> A Nation of Dim Bulbs: Bush's energy bill bans incandescent bulbs
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