Communist, meaning Marxist? Marxists believe in nationalizing the means of 
production. What would be Communist in his comments, Senator McCarthy? 
 
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the 
inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. -- Winston 
Churchill




----- Original Message ----
From: kiddleddee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:15:32 AM
Subject: [Libertarian] Re: Why They Fight and Die

General Hawley - collectivist/ socialist; 2 stiff drinks away from 
being a full-blown communist.

--- In Libertarian@ yahoogroups. com, Omar Khyam <omarkhyam1951@ ...> 
wrote:
>
> From General Hawley....he no longer has to be politically 
> correct..... ......... ......... ...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So much for "politically correct" nonsense.... if this 
offends you, 
> get a grip on reality!!
> 
> For those who don't know General Hawley, he's a newly retired 
USAF 
> 4-Star general. He commanded the USAF Air Combat Command [our front-
line 
> fighters and bombers]. The Command headquarters is at Langley AFB, 
VA. 
> General Hawley is now retired and no longer required to be 
politically 
> correct. His short speech is very much to the point.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The following are excerpts:"
> 
> "Since the attack [9-11], I have seen, heard, and read 
thoughts of 
> such surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard 
them 
> too.
> 
> Here they are:
> 
> 1. "We're not good, they're not evil, and everything is 
relative."
> 
> 
> "Listen carefully: We're good, they're evil, and nothing is 
relative. Say it 
> with me now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're 
good†doesn’t 
> mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded 
guy on 
> the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our 
country has, 
> with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be 
the 
> greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in 
history. 
> If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what 
happens.
> 
> 2 "Violence only leads to more violence."
> 
> "This one is so stupid you usually have to be the president 
of an Ivy 
> League university to say it. Here's the truth, which you know in 
your heads 
> and hearts already: Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more 
violence. 
> Limp, panicky, half-measures lead to more violence. However, 
complete, fully 
> thought-through, professional, well-executed violence never leads 
to more 
> violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead. 
That's 
> right, dead. Not "on trial," not reeducated," not "nurtured back 
into the 
> bosom of love." Dead-D-E-A-D
> 
> 
> Well, you get the idea.
> 
> 3 "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community have 
failed 
> us."
> 
> "For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake 
in the 
> ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for 
not 
> protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter 
appointee 
> Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas 
decided that 
> the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy 
satellites. 
> "After all, (they reasoned,) you can see a license plate from 200 
miles 
> away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a license 
plate. 
> Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans is not 
possible 
> with satellites. You have to use other humans.
> 
> When we bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, 
and here's 
> the really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new 
humans 
> into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who 
looks like 
> Gary Busey in a Spring Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a 
coffee 
> shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet 
that bin 
> Laden fella. "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving the 
bad guys a 
> story they'll be telling for years.
> 
> 4 "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're 
angry at 
> us." Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a 
> desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer 
than 
> Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor 
helpless 
> people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to 
stay in 
> power. Mohammed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those 
planes into 
> the killing grounds is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew 
this, too. 
> In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching against the 
war were 
> upper-middle- class college kids who grabbed any cause they could 
think of to 
> get out of their final papers and spend more time drinking. It's 
the same 
> today.
> 
> 5 "Any profiling is racial profiling." Who's killing us here, 
the 
> Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an 
article 
> saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden 
family 
> living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff, 
never to 
> return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm 
crushed.
> 
> Please come back. Let's all stop singing "We Are the World" 
for a 
> minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the 
floor in the 
> back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and 
turn, 
> grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't 
offend 
> them."
> 
> SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year: Never to forget 
our 
> murdered brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get 
away with 
> their immoral thinking. After all, no matter what your daughter's 
political 
> science professor says, we didn't start this. Have you seen that 
bumper 
> sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that 
says, "No 
> More Pearl Harbors."
> 
> 
> 
> The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of 
blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of 
miseries. -- Winston Churchill
> 
> 
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