In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:31:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
> 6e. Re: Resignation from the Libertarian Party
> Posted by: "Bruce Cohen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] brucedcohen2002
> Date: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:29 pm ((PDT))
>
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> No matter what I think of John as a person...
> No matter what I think of his past efforts...
>
> This is typical stuff from the 'radical' extremist wing.
>
> If they don't get their way, they hit the highway.
Dear Bruce, Thank you! Considering the source, I consider it an honor to be
attacked by you. The Wayne A. Root Organization is known for such viscous
attacks.
It is sad that I felt I had no other recourse except to leave a home that I
had been fairly comfortable with for almost 35 years. And I have not quit. I
just changed residences.
> I've said it before, and I say it again. How come they wanted the
> 'reformers' to back them when they got their nominee, Badnarik?
While Badnarik was not the ideal candidate he did not stoop to lies and
innuendo to win his position. He won the position because he was forever
optimistic
about freedom and he did not try for personal advancement as the LP
Candidate.
> How come they want us to support and fundraiser when they get their way on
> program and platform?
Because the prior platform did not lie to the world or ourselves. It
presented a clear cut vision of real freedom and responsibility.
> My guess is it's because they are mostly all spoiled brats who can't
> compromise, and worse yet, can't work as a team with others.
Hardly! Have you sit in a dirty crowded jail cell for 6 months because you
refused to bow. I have!
Has anything you have done made a significant difference in American freedom.
Mine has!
My 7 trips to jail between 1977 and 1980 resulted in one of the biggest
explosions of personal travel in American history > $99.00 airfares <.
There were many other benefits to transportation deregulation resulting in
lower cost to everyone.
> Through all the permutations and changes in the LP, whether we liked it or
> not, we stuck around and supported what we voted in as a group.
> The 'reformers', that is.
And then because you could not get your way starting in early 2005 you lied
and manipulated events so that at the 2006 National LP Convention you
controlled the floor and began the slow poisoning of Freedom and
Responsibility. You
were able to finish the job at the 2008 National LP Convention.
> And, maybe that's why this group has become called the 'grownups' within
> Libertarian circles.
Not in all Libertarian circles. In many circles you are known as thieves and
those who killed, or at least crippled the last hope for continued freedom in
the whole world.
> They don't make up stories about other people.
> They don't steal, cheat or lie... How boring...
I would beg to differ with you on that.
> Yet, when it comes time for boots on the ground and money for the
> campaigns, we are there, no matter who the nominee is or what the outcomes
> are over
> things.
Again I would beg to differ. History says otherwise. Think Howie Rich!
> You don't see a bunch of us threatening to resign if votes don't go our
> way, like the kiddietarians did in Denver recently, when Barr was nominated.
The kiddietarians did not try to use lies and deceit to advance their
positions as the Barr and Root groups did.
> This is the true divisiveness.
Have you looked in to a mirror lately!
>
> I mean, really...
>
> Why bother voting, or participating in the voting process if you won't
> respect it when you don't get your own way.
Victory gained by fraud is not the Libertarian way. It is the Barr - Root
way.
>
> I'm also curious, if John felt to passionately, why he didn't show up in
> Denver to vote.
I was in Denver. I was there from Wednesday night and was in attendance for
the whole Platform Committee meeting on Thursday. I was one of the 4 major
players of the minority report. I was also in Las Vegas in February.
I was the cause of Bob Barr resigning from the National Committee even though
he dearly wanted to stay on.
I was on the floor almost all of every business portion of the committee. I
have over 400 witnesses of my activities there. Many who wished I had not been
there. Ask Pat Dixon!
Somewhere in such a diatribe as you present one would expect to find a kernel
of truth one could hold on to, but not here.
> Bruce Cohen
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