MODERATOR'S NOTE: Below we have an example of someone defending deception with 
more deception. My favorite part is the accusation that I pointed out the 
fallacies in Bruce Cohen's post because I took them "personal". The problem 
with this is that Bruce's attack was aimed at the radicals in the LP, and since 
I have never been a member of the LP, I could not have possibly taken it 
personally.

---Sasan

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On the other hand, his core argument is pin point accurate.  He correctly 
assessed and evaluated the position of the radicals.  There were not any straw 
man arguments as you suggest.  And I know Bruce to be any thing but a hasty 
thinker.  His arguments are reasoned, complete, and most always spot on.  And 
he hit it right dead accurate this time.  And if you take his analysis as 
personnel, it may be that it hits too close to home.

BWS

> MODERATOR'S NOTE: If any of you out there want to know
> how many personal attacks, straw man arguments, and hasty
> generalizations can possibly be fit into one post then
> below you will find your answer.
>
> ---Sasan
>
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>
> No matter what I think of John as a person...
> No matter what I think of his past efforts...
>  
> This is typical stuff from the 'radical' extremist
> wing.
>  
> If they don't get their way, they hit the highway.
>  
> I've said it before, and I say it again.
> How come they wanted the 'reformers' to back them
> when they got their nominee, Badnarik?
>  
> How come they want us to support and fundraise
> when they get their way on program and platform?
>  
> My guess is it's because they are mostly all
> spoiled brats who can't compromise, and worse
> yet, can't work as a team with others.
>  
> Through all the permutations and changes in the
> LP, whether we liked it or not, we stuck around
> and supported what we voted in as a group.
> The 'reformers', that is.
>  
> And, maybe that's why this group has become
> called the 'grownups' within Libertarian circles.
>  
> They don't make up stories about other people.
> They don't steal, cheat or lie...
> How boring...
>  
> Yet, when it comes time for boots on the ground
> and money for the campaigns, we are there, no
> matter who the nominee is or what the outcomes
> are over things.
>  
> You don't see a bunch of us threatening to resign
> if votes don't go our way, like the kiddietarians
> did in Denver recently, when Barr was nominated.
>  
> This is the true divisiveness.
>  
> I mean, really...
>  
> Why bother voting, or participating in the voting
> process if you won't respect it when you don't
> get your own way.
>  
> I'm also curious, if John felt to passionately,
> why he didn't show up in Denver to vote.
>
>
> Bruce Cohen




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