"Simply pointing out a problem doesn't 
make your solution the right one."

It does when the problem is I have cancer and the 
Minarchist/Constitutionalist absurdly asks,"But what would you 
replace it with??"

The author is correct in stating "that many of those who claim to 
favor liberty still stop short of fully accepting the conclusion of 
their own premises: that government is inefficient and operates via 
aggressive means."

This is not mere opinion but fact.

If Government is horrible at educating my kids, providing welfare to 
the indigent, providing Health Care to the sick, and so on adinfitim 
then how is this same inefficient apparatus suddenly blessed with 
good judgement when it comes to determining the quality and quantity 
of justice, police, and defense individuals may need???

The answer is obvious....

It has no more good judgement on these items than anything else 
because being a Monopolist means never having to produce anything of 
value or we would voluntarily pay for it.

As I said in a previous posting in a different forum:

As this wise young man said in this video I recently emailed to 
several friends:

"When the Free Market is allowed to create a solution, as it mostly 
is for Computers, The Internet, and Food, it responds with an 
abundance of products, in a number of differentiating ways, with lots 
of choices and additional services."

"When the Government handles food, you get bread lines, and of 
course, men with guns."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yxjNAt_Jdk

If we simply use this as a REAL LIFE example (not theory) is it 
really unreasonable to conclude that absent a State monopoly in these 
services we would have an abundance of options for Defense, Law, and 
Police as well?

So the real question which all Anarchists ask those who do not agree 
with them is as follows:

Would society be better off without a State?

Clearly we are better off when they mostly don't interfere with the 
provision of Computers, The Internet, and food.

Is it really a stretch to think that we'd be better off if we had an 
abundance of options for Defense, Law, and Police?

I really don't think so.

P



--- In [email protected], Chris Edes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This is just one guy stating his beliefs.  He says "why not", "I 
> believe" and "it seems to me".  Yet, he doesn't advance any 
arguments or 
> present proof.  In what situations would the absence of government 
> produce better results, and how?  Simply pointing out a problem 
doesn't 
> make your solution the right one.
> 
> Chris
> 
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> > August 01, 2008
> > To Secure These Rights?
> > Posted by Manuel Lora at August 1, 2008 01:38 PM
> >
> > The state fails to do even the things that its supporters claim 
it should do: the protection of our rights. Take a look at this story 
or this one or this one --these abominations represent the complete 
collapse of the concepts of "justice" and "defense" and "protection." 
In true Orwellian fashion, justice now means plunder, defense means 
offense and protection means aggression.
> >
> > To the radical libertarian, the above headlines are, while 
shocking, not really surprising. What does surprise is that many of 
those who claim to favor liberty still stop short of fully accepting 
the conclusion of their own premises: that government is inefficient 
and operates via aggressive means. If we claim that the state should 
not be engaged in education because the result is monstrous, why not, 
then, apply the same reasoning to other functions that the state 
performs, such as defense and protection and law and courts? We 
oppose state education, state entertainment and every other state 
industry but when it comes to police and justice and law, many --too 
many-- give their consent and support!
> >
> > It seems to me that the classical libertarians (such as 
minarchists and constitutionalists) have made a terrible mistake. 
They have taken the most important of institutions, namely the 
protection of our rights, and given them to the monopolist. I believe 
that, if it were possible, it would be preferable to have the 
government take care of things like entertainment and toilets instead 
of the "slightly" more important functions of defense and law.
> >
> > Ultimately, the state cannot be reformed and the political system 
can only do so much. Indeed, nothing short of the abolition of 
statist politics --of the state itself-- is acceptable to the radical 
libertarian. If the government isn't fit to be my janitor or 
educator, it is not fit to be my police, my judge, my jury, 
president, prosecutor or legislator.
> >
> > Says Thoreau: That government is best which governs not at all; 
and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government 
which they will have.
> >
> > The freedom revolution begins with one's consent. Withdraw it. 
It's time.
> >
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