At 01:53 PM 6/29/2008, you wrote:
--- On Sun, 6/29/08, Zack Bass
<<mailto:zakbas%40gmail.com>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Interesting theory. Barr is accused of taking an anti-libertarian
stance on Immigration, and your defense of him is to state that YOU
TOO are anti-libertarian on this issue.
To stop me, a U.S. Citizen, from inviting my foreign friends to come
visit me, is definitely anti-libertarian. There is no way you can
justify that. You can oppose Welfare for them, and libertarians will
join you in that.
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So in other words you think it is OK for people to come into this
country for the express purpose of committing crimes such as rape,
murder and theft.
See it is not so fun when people lie about what you mean. Get your
facts straight. Preventing criminals from crossing borders has no
relationship to you inviting your friends to visit you. Your feeble
attempt at a straw-man argument is pathetic. If you are going to try
a straw-man argument you should at least be more subtle at it. It is
also not anti-libertarian to recognize that a problem exist when one
in fact does exist. To act like the current situation is all fine
and dandy is the worst sort of hiding from reality. Bob Barr has
made NO statement on visitors or legal immigrants. Criminals,
welfare mooches, and people looking to take advantage of a broken
system of medical laws that take the decisions on whom to serve out
of the hands of the trades person involved, on the other hand are
what he was talking about.
BWS
Chuckle...You decry a tactic, then you apply it yourself?... ^^ The
current situation exists
for several reasons. One, its useful to the various corporate
interests who *own* BOTH
aspects of the Boot On Your Neck Party. Do you have ANY idea how much it would
cost them if they had to pay the same costs involved for illegals, as
they do with legal workers?
Its one HELL of a lot cheaper to buy off the politicians
involved. That's the corporate welfare part.
The Blue State socialists on the other hand, are always wailing about
nonsense like "social justice" and other distractions from the
reality they have
helped to create in the first place. Do you think that a free market
medical system
would have the dangerous idiocy that is our current reality? Not in
the least. Of course,
its impossible to have a free market, with all of the various control
freaks sticking
their noses in to it(to "protect the consumers" of course...). Which
usually works out
to protecting the established interests in the various markets from
effective competition.
Over all, its a glaring demonstration of the corruption that power
brings with it.
Finally, just what's in this for you personally? You seem to be quite
the advocate for Bob Barr.
Yet his past history is ANYTHING but libertarian. One of the more
creative(and entertaining) spins
on this, is to frame his "conversion" in terms of the redemption of
Darth Vader. Which I think does
Barr a dis service, because as far as I know, hes not responsible for
the destruction of any planets. ^^
Barr is a professional politician(with all that such implies), and
his "conversion" is FAR too
convenient in its timing for anyone but an ideologue to disregard.
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