This would be for the interpolation only right?

So if I use this GlobalRHS, and construct my LHS based on the actual problem
I want to solve (just a Poisson, so I would be using dphi), it would be
equivalent to solving the problem with the RHS being interpolated?

Karen


On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Rahul Sampath <[email protected]>wrote:

> To be more precise:
>
> GlobalMassMatrix = Sum_over_elements{
> integral_over_current_element_using_quadrature(phi_i*phi_j) }
>
> GlobalRHS = GlobalMassMatrix*Nodal_F_Vector
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Rahul Sampath <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > This is what I meant:
> >
> > MassMatrix = integral(phi_i*phi_j)
> >
> > RHS = MassMatrix*Nodal_F_Vector
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Karen Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Sorry, I think I was probably confused. I guess you just meant that I
> can
> >> simply use integral of f_i phi_i phi_j as my RHS, and my original LHS as
> my
> >> LHS, and that would already be effectively an interpolation? Please let
> me
> >> know if this is the correct way to think about it instead of the long
> >> message I sent with lots of code...
> >>
> >> My 2 questions regarding access to data would still remain:
> >>
> >> 1)  I am still having problems accessing MeshData from the assemble
> >> function. I would like to do something like
> >> mesh_data.get_data(el.get_node(i))[0] to get the first data variable for
> >> node i with an element, i from 0 to 3, but I'm not sure how to access
> >> mesh_data from my System. (I should use Linear Implicit System so I can
> have
> >> the matrix on the lhs right?)
> >>
> >> 2) The other question is, for Fe, do I integrate over all the quadrature
> >> points of phi_i and phi_j with f_i being a constant?
> >>
> >> Thank you so much!!!
> >> Karen
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Karen Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Rahul. Your responses have clarified things for me.
> >>>
> >>> I am still having problems accessing MeshData from the assemble
> function
> >>> (which is only supposed to have 2 arguments right?)
> >>>
> >>> I can do:
> >>>
> >>> void assemble_load(EquationSystems& es,
> >>>                    const std::string& system_name)
> >>> {
> >>>
> >>>   libmesh_assert (system_name == "load");
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   const MeshBase& mesh = es.get_mesh();
> >>>   printf("mesh_data obtained");
> >>>
> >>> ......
> >>>
> >>> But I'm not sure how I can get the MeshData object that I created in
> main
> >>> that's attached to the mesh I created. In the look iterating over the
> >>> elements el, I know that I have to use something like
> >>> mesh_data.get_data(el.get_node(i))[0] to get the first data variable
> for
> >>> node i with an element, i from 0 to 3, but I'm not sure how to access
> >>> mesh_data from my System. (I should use Linear Implicit System so I can
> have
> >>> the matrix on the lhs right?)
> >>>
> >>> My code is based on example 3, and the relevant part is this (not sure
> if
> >>> it's correct):
> >>>
> >>>  for ( ; el != end_el ; ++el)
> >>>     {
> >>>       const Elem* elem = *el;
> >>>
> >>>       dof_map.dof_indices (elem, dof_indices);
> >>>
> >>>       fe->reinit (elem);
> >>>
> >>>       Ke.resize (dof_indices.size(),
> >>>                  dof_indices.size());
> >>>
> >>>       Fe.resize (dof_indices.size());
> >>>
> >>>       for (unsigned int qp=0; qp<qrule.n_points(); qp++)
> >>>         {
> >>>
> >>>           for (unsigned int i=0; i<phi.size(); i++)
> >>>             for (unsigned int j=0; j<phi.size(); j++)
> >>>               {
> >>>                 Ke(i,j) += JxW[qp]*(phi[i][qp]*phi[j][qp]);
> >>>               }
> >>>
> >>>           {
> >>>             for (unsigned int i=0; i<phi.size(); i++)
> >>>               {
> >>>               for (unsigned int k=0; k<phi.size(); k++)
> >>>                 {
> >>>                 Fe(i) +=
> >>> JxW[qp]*mesh_data.get_data(el.get_node(k))[0]*phi[i][qp]phi[k][qp];
> >>>
> >>>               }
> >>>           }
> >>>         }
> >>> ....
> >>>
> >>> The other question is, for Fe, do I integrate over all the quadrature
> >>> points of phi_i and phi_j with f_i being a constant?
> >>>
> >>> Then once I get this solution (the variable name is "R", let's say), I
> >>> hope to use it in  place of mesh_data.get_data(el.get_node(k))[0] and
> do
> >>> something like this (of course this is another system that I'm adding
> to
> >>> EquationSystems):
> >>>
> >>> for (unsigned int qp=0; qp<qrule.n_points(); qp++)
> >>>      {
> >>>
> >>>        for (unsigned int i=0; i<phi.size(); i++)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>          for (unsigned int j=0; j<phi.size(); j++)
> >>>            {
> >>>              Ke2(i,j) += JxW[qp]*(dphi[i][qp]*dphi[j][qp]);
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>            }
> >>>
> >>>        {
> >>>          const Real x = q_point[qp](0);
> >>>          const Real y = q_point[qp](1);
> >>>          const Real z = q_point[qp](2);
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>          const Real fxy = R(x,y,z);
> >>>
> >>>          for (unsigned int i=0; i<phi.size(); i++)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>            Fe2(i) += JxW[qp]*fxy*phi[i][qp];
> >>>        }
> >>>      }
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure how to access anything in a Variable object though...
> Let's
> >>> say "R" being a a variable I add to the first system to get the RHS
> >>> interpolation, and "u" is the variable I add to the second equation
> system,
> >>> which is the actual solution I'm after...  I just know that I can
> output the
> >>> values of the solution at various nodal points in a file, but am not
> sure
> >>> what to do with the data structure and how I can extract values at
> different
> >>> arbitrary locations.
> >>>
> >>> Apologies for the lengthy email...
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Karen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Rahul Sampath <
> [email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Karen:
> >>>>
> >>>> Take a look at any Nonlinear example problem. Whenever you want to use
> >>>> any solution vector in your residual computation, you will need to
> >>>> interpolate the nodal values using the FEM shape functions for this
> >>>> element and then do the integration. It is very similar to what you
> >>>> want to do. That is why I suggested the Mass matrix trick. It is very
> >>>> simple to implement and fast too especially if you want to change f
> >>>> often. You can use the same Mass matrix with differen f. The catch is
> >>>> that you are using your FE shape functions for your interpolation. As
> >>>> long as you are happy with linear interpolation for f this should do.
> >>>> If you want to interpolate f with a higher order polynomial than your
> >>>> FE shape function then this wont work.
> >>>>
> >>>> Btw, if I was not clear earlier:
> >>>> You have to form a global Mass matrix by integrating phi_i phi_j over
> >>>> all elements and doing a typically FEM assembly. Then you can simply
> >>>> multiply this global Mass matrix with you global nodal vector for f.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Karen Lee <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>> > Hi Rahul, I'm not completely sure what you mean.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I would like to form my RHS by integrating f_i Phi_i (I guess
> there's
> >>>> > no
> >>>> > need to multiply Phi_j? But you can correct me) for each element.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > In order to do so, I need values of f at various quadrature points.
> I
> >>>> > have f
> >>>> > at various nodal values. The question is, how do I get this linear
> >>>> > interpolation...
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Do you mean that, for each element, I form the mass matrix by the
> xyz
> >>>> > values
> >>>> > of the nodes (and a constant 1) and solve for the coefficient by
> saying
> >>>> > \sum_j A_ij y_j= f_i, where:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > A = [1 x1 y1 z1;
> >>>> >        1 x2 y2 z2;
> >>>> >        1 x3 y3 z3;
> >>>> >        1 x4 y4 z4] and y_j would be my unknown (where j = 1
> corresponds
> >>>> > to
> >>>> > the constant value, and 2, 3, 4 corresponds to the gradient in the
> x,
> >>>> > y, z
> >>>> > directions respectively)?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Thanks,
> >>>> > Karen
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Rahul Sampath
> >>>> > <[email protected]>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> If you want to form a RHS by integrating f_i Phi_i Phi_j, You could
> >>>> >> form a Mass matrix and then multiply with your vector of nodal
> values.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Rahul
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Karen Lee <[email protected]>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >> > I'm afraid you misunderstood. I don't have the function that when
> >>>> >> > given
> >>>> >> > x,
> >>>> >> > y, z values gives me the function value. What I do have is just
> the
> >>>> >> > values
> >>>> >> > at the nodes of the mesh, which need to be linearly interpolated
> >>>> >> > such
> >>>> >> > that I
> >>>> >> > will have something like exact_function. which gives me the value
> >>>> >> > when
> >>>> >> > supplied with any x, y, z.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Liang <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >> Karen Lee wrote:
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>> I guess I'm not clear how to do this: Load data as a solution
> into
> >>>> >> >>> that,
> >>>> >> >>> and
> >>>> >> >>> query
> >>>> >> >>> it when you're integrating your real system.
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> I have:
> >>>> >> >>> Mesh mesh(3);
> >>>> >> >>> MeshData mesh_data(mesh);
> >>>> >> >>> mesh_data.activate();
> >>>> >> >>> mesh.read (mesh_file, &mesh_data);
> >>>> >> >>> mesh_data.read(mesh_file);
> >>>> >> >>> EquationSystems equation_systems (mesh);
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> equation_systems.add_system<ExplicitSystem> ("RHS");
> >>>> >> >>> equation_systems.get_system("RHS").add_variable("R", FIRST);
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> After that, I'm not clear how exactly to load data as a
> solution
> >>>> >> >>> in
> >>>> >> >>> the
> >>>> >> >>> code. My goal is to get a linearly interpolated function of my
> >>>> >> >>> data on
> >>>> >> >>> the
> >>>> >> >>> nodes (in the form of exact_solution, such that I get the
> function
> >>>> >> >>> value
> >>>> >> >>> out
> >>>> >> >>> when supplying x, y and z).
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> Hope that clarifies things, and sorry for the multiple
> emails...
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>> Karen
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>>
> >>>> >> >>>
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> >>>> >> >> so you already have the function, which is obtained from your
> >>>> >> >> discreted
> >>>> >> >> data?
> >>>> >> >> then just put the function as the exact_function.
> >>>> >> >> I think you are trying the 3D case, start from a 2d will be
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> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
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