I have not used MeshData and may be some of the LibMesh experts in the
group can help you with that. However, all you need is a Petsc Vec
object for F_nodal since you can simply call Petsc MatMult to form RHS
once you have Petsc Mat for MassMatrix and F_nodal.
If you know the global DOF id for each mesh node and the corresponding
f_value then you can set values into F_nodal using Petsc functions.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Karen Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah, this makes perfect sense to me.
>
> I'm having difficulty with step 2 though. In main, I define a MeshData that
> I read in from an input file with the Mesh itself and the associated data.
> Basically, F_nodal IS mesh_data.get_data(el.get_node(i))[0], but I don't see
> a get_mesh_data function or something similar in the class doc for System...
> Nor can I find a way to access the MeshData object associated with the mesh
> once I have the mesh object pointer...
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Rahul Sampath <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Here are the steps to solve Laplacian u(x,y,z) = f(x,y,z):
>>
>> 1. Form A = Assembly( A_elem ) where A_elem = integral(dPhi_i*dPhi_j)
>> 2. Form F_nodal = f(x_i,y_i,z_i) at all mesh nodes
>> 3. Form MassMatrix = Assembly( M_elem ) where M_elem = integral(Phi_k,
>> Phi_j)
>> 4. Form RHS = MassMatrix*F_nodal
>> 5. Solve A U_nodal = RHS for U_nodal
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Karen Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > This would be for the interpolation only right?
>> >
>> > So if I use this GlobalRHS, and construct my LHS based on the actual
>> > problem
>> > I want to solve (just a Poisson, so I would be using dphi), it would be
>> > equivalent to solving the problem with the RHS being interpolated?
>> >
>> > Karen
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Rahul Sampath <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> To be more precise:
>> >>
>> >> GlobalMassMatrix = Sum_over_elements{
>> >> integral_over_current_element_using_quadrature(phi_i*phi_j) }
>> >>
>> >> GlobalRHS = GlobalMassMatrix*Nodal_F_Vector
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Rahul Sampath
>> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > This is what I meant:
>> >> >
>> >> > MassMatrix = integral(phi_i*phi_j)
>> >> >
>> >> > RHS = MassMatrix*Nodal_F_Vector
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Karen Lee <[email protected]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> Sorry, I think I was probably confused. I guess you just meant that
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> simply use integral of f_i phi_i phi_j as my RHS, and my original
>> >> >> LHS
>> >> >> as my
>> >> >> LHS, and that would already be effectively an interpolation? Please
>> >> >> let
>> >> >> me
>> >> >> know if this is the correct way to think about it instead of the
>> >> >> long
>> >> >> message I sent with lots of code...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My 2 questions regarding access to data would still remain:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 1)  I am still having problems accessing MeshData from the assemble
>> >> >> function. I would like to do something like
>> >> >> mesh_data.get_data(el.get_node(i))[0] to get the first data variable
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> node i with an element, i from 0 to 3, but I'm not sure how to
>> >> >> access
>> >> >> mesh_data from my System. (I should use Linear Implicit System so I
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> have
>> >> >> the matrix on the lhs right?)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2) The other question is, for Fe, do I integrate over all the
>> >> >> quadrature
>> >> >> points of phi_i and phi_j with f_i being a constant?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you so much!!!
>> >> >> Karen
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Karen Lee <[email protected]>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks Rahul. Your responses have clarified things for me.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I am still having problems accessing MeshData from the assemble
>> >> >>> function
>> >> >>> (which is only supposed to have 2 arguments right?)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I can do:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> void assemble_load(EquationSystems& es,
>> >> >>>                    const std::string& system_name)
>> >> >>> {
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>   libmesh_assert (system_name == "load");
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>   const MeshBase& mesh = es.get_mesh();
>> >> >>>   printf("mesh_data obtained");
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> ......
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> But I'm not sure how I can get the MeshData object that I created
>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>> main
>> >> >>> that's attached to the mesh I created. In the look iterating over
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> elements el, I know that I have to use something like
>> >> >>> mesh_data.get_data(el.get_node(i))[0] to get the first data
>> >> >>> variable
>> >> >>> for
>> >> >>> node i with an element, i from 0 to 3, but I'm not sure how to
>> >> >>> access
>> >> >>> mesh_data from my System. (I should use Linear Implicit System so I
>> >> >>> can have
>> >> >>> the matrix on the lhs right?)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> My code is based on example 3, and the relevant part is this (not
>> >> >>> sure
>> >> >>> if
>> >> >>> it's correct):
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>  for ( ; el != end_el ; ++el)
>> >> >>>     {
>> >> >>>       const Elem* elem = *el;
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>       dof_map.dof_indices (elem, dof_indices);
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>       fe->reinit (elem);
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>       Ke.resize (dof_indices.size(),
>> >> >>>                  dof_indices.size());
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>       Fe.resize (dof_indices.size());
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>       for (unsigned int qp=0; qp<qrule.n_points(); qp++)
>> >> >>>         {
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>           for (unsigned int i=0; i<phi.size(); i++)
>> >> >>>             for (unsigned int j=0; j<phi.size(); j++)
>> >> >>>               {
>> >> >>>                 Ke(i,j) += JxW[qp]*(phi[i][qp]*phi[j][qp]);
>> >> >>>               }
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>           {
>> >> >>>             for (unsigned int i=0; i<phi.size(); i++)
>> >> >>>               {
>> >> >>>               for (unsigned int k=0; k<phi.size(); k++)
>> >> >>>                 {
>> >> >>>                 Fe(i) +=
>> >> >>> JxW[qp]*mesh_data.get_data(el.get_node(k))[0]*phi[i][qp]phi[k][qp];
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>               }
>> >> >>>           }
>> >> >>>         }
>> >> >>> ....
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The other question is, for Fe, do I integrate over all the
>> >> >>> quadrature
>> >> >>> points of phi_i and phi_j with f_i being a constant?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Then once I get this solution (the variable name is "R", let's
>> >> >>> say), I
>> >> >>> hope to use it in  place of mesh_data.get_data(el.get_node(k))[0]
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> do
>> >> >>> something like this (of course this is another system that I'm
>> >> >>> adding
>> >> >>> to
>> >> >>> EquationSystems):
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> for (unsigned int qp=0; qp<qrule.n_points(); qp++)
>> >> >>>      {
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>        for (unsigned int i=0; i<phi.size(); i++)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>          for (unsigned int j=0; j<phi.size(); j++)
>> >> >>>            {
>> >> >>>              Ke2(i,j) += JxW[qp]*(dphi[i][qp]*dphi[j][qp]);
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>            }
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>        {
>> >> >>>          const Real x = q_point[qp](0);
>> >> >>>          const Real y = q_point[qp](1);
>> >> >>>          const Real z = q_point[qp](2);
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>          const Real fxy = R(x,y,z);
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>          for (unsigned int i=0; i<phi.size(); i++)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>            Fe2(i) += JxW[qp]*fxy*phi[i][qp];
>> >> >>>        }
>> >> >>>      }
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I'm not sure how to access anything in a Variable object though...
>> >> >>> Let's
>> >> >>> say "R" being a a variable I add to the first system to get the RHS
>> >> >>> interpolation, and "u" is the variable I add to the second equation
>> >> >>> system,
>> >> >>> which is the actual solution I'm after...  I just know that I can
>> >> >>> output the
>> >> >>> values of the solution at various nodal points in a file, but am
>> >> >>> not
>> >> >>> sure
>> >> >>> what to do with the data structure and how I can extract values at
>> >> >>> different
>> >> >>> arbitrary locations.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Apologies for the lengthy email...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >>> Karen
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Rahul Sampath
>> >> >>> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi Karen:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Take a look at any Nonlinear example problem. Whenever you want to
>> >> >>>> use
>> >> >>>> any solution vector in your residual computation, you will need to
>> >> >>>> interpolate the nodal values using the FEM shape functions for
>> >> >>>> this
>> >> >>>> element and then do the integration. It is very similar to what
>> >> >>>> you
>> >> >>>> want to do. That is why I suggested the Mass matrix trick. It is
>> >> >>>> very
>> >> >>>> simple to implement and fast too especially if you want to change
>> >> >>>> f
>> >> >>>> often. You can use the same Mass matrix with differen f. The catch
>> >> >>>> is
>> >> >>>> that you are using your FE shape functions for your interpolation.
>> >> >>>> As
>> >> >>>> long as you are happy with linear interpolation for f this should
>> >> >>>> do.
>> >> >>>> If you want to interpolate f with a higher order polynomial than
>> >> >>>> your
>> >> >>>> FE shape function then this wont work.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Btw, if I was not clear earlier:
>> >> >>>> You have to form a global Mass matrix by integrating phi_i phi_j
>> >> >>>> over
>> >> >>>> all elements and doing a typically FEM assembly. Then you can
>> >> >>>> simply
>> >> >>>> multiply this global Mass matrix with you global nodal vector for
>> >> >>>> f.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Karen Lee <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>> > Hi Rahul, I'm not completely sure what you mean.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > I would like to form my RHS by integrating f_i Phi_i (I guess
>> >> >>>> > there's
>> >> >>>> > no
>> >> >>>> > need to multiply Phi_j? But you can correct me) for each
>> >> >>>> > element.
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > In order to do so, I need values of f at various quadrature
>> >> >>>> > points.
>> >> >>>> > I
>> >> >>>> > have f
>> >> >>>> > at various nodal values. The question is, how do I get this
>> >> >>>> > linear
>> >> >>>> > interpolation...
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Do you mean that, for each element, I form the mass matrix by
>> >> >>>> > the
>> >> >>>> > xyz
>> >> >>>> > values
>> >> >>>> > of the nodes (and a constant 1) and solve for the coefficient by
>> >> >>>> > saying
>> >> >>>> > \sum_j A_ij y_j= f_i, where:
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > A = [1 x1 y1 z1;
>> >> >>>> >        1 x2 y2 z2;
>> >> >>>> >        1 x3 y3 z3;
>> >> >>>> >        1 x4 y4 z4] and y_j would be my unknown (where j = 1
>> >> >>>> > corresponds
>> >> >>>> > to
>> >> >>>> > the constant value, and 2, 3, 4 corresponds to the gradient in
>> >> >>>> > the
>> >> >>>> > x,
>> >> >>>> > y, z
>> >> >>>> > directions respectively)?
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Thanks,
>> >> >>>> > Karen
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Rahul Sampath
>> >> >>>> > <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>> > wrote:
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> If you want to form a RHS by integrating f_i Phi_i Phi_j, You
>> >> >>>> >> could
>> >> >>>> >> form a Mass matrix and then multiply with your vector of nodal
>> >> >>>> >> values.
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> Rahul
>> >> >>>> >>
>> >> >>>> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Karen Lee
>> >> >>>> >> <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> > I'm afraid you misunderstood. I don't have the function that
>> >> >>>> >> > when
>> >> >>>> >> > given
>> >> >>>> >> > x,
>> >> >>>> >> > y, z values gives me the function value. What I do have is
>> >> >>>> >> > just
>> >> >>>> >> > the
>> >> >>>> >> > values
>> >> >>>> >> > at the nodes of the mesh, which need to be linearly
>> >> >>>> >> > interpolated
>> >> >>>> >> > such
>> >> >>>> >> > that I
>> >> >>>> >> > will have something like exact_function. which gives me the
>> >> >>>> >> > value
>> >> >>>> >> > when
>> >> >>>> >> > supplied with any x, y, z.
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Liang <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> >
>> >> >>>> >> >> Karen Lee wrote:
>> >> >>>> >> >>
>> >> >>>> >> >>> I guess I'm not clear how to do this: Load data as a
>> >> >>>> >> >>> solution
>> >> >>>> >> >>> into
>> >> >>>> >> >>> that,
>> >> >>>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>>> >> >>> query
>> >> >>>> >> >>> it when you're integrating your real system.
>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>> I have:
>> >> >>>> >> >>> Mesh mesh(3);
>> >> >>>> >> >>> MeshData mesh_data(mesh);
>> >> >>>> >> >>> mesh_data.activate();
>> >> >>>> >> >>> mesh.read (mesh_file, &mesh_data);
>> >> >>>> >> >>> mesh_data.read(mesh_file);
>> >> >>>> >> >>> EquationSystems equation_systems (mesh);
>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>> equation_systems.add_system<ExplicitSystem> ("RHS");
>> >> >>>> >> >>> equation_systems.get_system("RHS").add_variable("R",
>> >> >>>> >> >>> FIRST);
>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>> After that, I'm not clear how exactly to load data as a
>> >> >>>> >> >>> solution
>> >> >>>> >> >>> in
>> >> >>>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>>> >> >>> code. My goal is to get a linearly interpolated function of
>> >> >>>> >> >>> my
>> >> >>>> >> >>> data on
>> >> >>>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>>> >> >>> nodes (in the form of exact_solution, such that I get the
>> >> >>>> >> >>> function
>> >> >>>> >> >>> value
>> >> >>>> >> >>> out
>> >> >>>> >> >>> when supplying x, y and z).
>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>> Hope that clarifies things, and sorry for the multiple
>> >> >>>> >> >>> emails...
>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>> Karen
>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> >> >>>
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>> >> >>>> >> >> your
>> >> >>>> >> >> discreted
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>> >> >>>> >> >> I think you are trying the 3D case, start from a 2d will be
>> >> >>>> >> >> easier.
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>> >> >>>> >> >> Liang
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