On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:59 PM, John Peterson <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Manav Bhatia <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >     I am working on higher-order simulation using the hierarchich
> function
> > on quad8s.
> >
> >     My error-convergence plots give me theoretical convergence for first
> > and second order p, but the error stagnates for p > 2. I am speculating
> > that this might be due to the lower-order geometry, assuming that the x-
> > and y-coordinates are interpolated using Lagrange functions associated
> with
> > nodes of quad8.
>
> What does your domain look like?  Unit square?  If so I don't think
> there can be errors due to using even bilinear element maps, the
> Jacobians are linear in this case.
>
>
This is the Gaussian bump problem from the higher-order CFD workshop (
http://dept.ku.edu/~cfdku/hiocfd/case_c1.1.html). You are correct that away
from the bump the boundary is straight, so linear elements should be fine.
I am looking at the entropy error, since the entropy is supposed to stay
constant. The bump-boundary, infact, is adding to the entropy-error. I am
able to drop down to 10^-7 in the error L2 norm, and then it stagnates. And
I have a feeling that this is due to the low-order geometry.



> What exact solution are you using for testing the convergence?
>
> >     I am considering adding higher order quads to get x- and
> > y- interpolation using higher-order Lagrange functions. Any thoughts on
> how
> > easy/difficult this might be?
>
> You are talking about QUAD16?  It shouldn't be too hard but we would
> need to come to a consesus on node numbering for this element.
>
>
Yes, I was considering this, and also the 25-noded quad. However, I
am still considering if the effort might be worth it: Meaning that I may be
able to get theoretical order of convergence for this simpler benchmark
problem, but I don't know if any practical problem will benefit from a 16
or 25 noded quad. I am not sure if any mesh generator would give me
elements with these many nodes.

-Manav
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