Hey Daniel, et al, I do think Wikidata is going to open up a lot of doors for us really, really soon: and we are starting to see a lot of early adopters do experiments with it in campaigns ( If you haven't yet, weigh in on the proposal at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Music_in_Canada_@_150:_A_Wikipedia_and_Wikidata_Project ).
I want to echo Peaceray's note about the complication of working in Wikidata for Archival/Library specialists around bibliographic data: - Part of the problem with metadata work on Wikidata, is that I don't think I have seen an optimal "Quick and simple introduction to Wikidata contribution for professionals" yet. I think the Wikidata Games make a big difference, but aren't fully their yet for bibliographic data (one or two more years of WikiCite work, and I think we will be there). Building out teaching modules, and the simple activities that would be appealing to different audiences would be awesome! - Also, unlike adding a reference to a source to a Wikipedia page (which is like answering a reference desk question), freely changing bibliographic metadata could really challenge the broader culture of libraries which tend to not favor rapid transformation of metadata. The libraries community uses citation/bibliographic for a variety of purposes, and there is a culture of applying different schemas for different local purposes, and then not being comfortable with changing someone else's record, because it might have unintended impact on those local purposes. Until we have really clear Wikimedia and external use cases for the data, and we have engaged more librarians in understanding if our current schemas/recommendations work well for many library purposes, I (personally) am not quite ready to ask thousands of librarians to add bibliographic metadata to Wikidata. I think it would invite a lot of confusion and/or force less-than thorough solutions to some of the questions being worked on by the WikiCite community (correct me if I am wrong librarians and WikiCite-rs on this thread). That being said, I would love to see some local experiments around Wikidata in the campaign: if you have ideas, and want to host either small events or try sharing an engagement activity as part of the social media push: do it! Whatever works well can be iterated more broadly into the campaign for 2018. We hope that #1lib1ref offers a platform for experimenting with library outreach, in any number of directions (like how Art+Feminism has opened up conversations with the arts community). The other opportunity, in my mind, is to do a seperate identifier and authority control campaign at some other point -- that relies heavily on Mix-n-match and the Distributed Game and could call on collaboration across all GLAMs. Building awareness that we are doing Authority Control Synchronization and how Wikidata adds value to using Authority controls, could open up a lot of conversations with these wider professional communities. Cheers, Alex Stinson P.S. Love the idea of an ALA gathering :) On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Raymond Leonard < [email protected]> wrote: > Folks, > > I may be preaching to the choir, but I think that there are two important > pieces for encouraging librarians in entering bibliographic data into & > retrieving it from Wikidata . > > The first would be some sort of web form that has multiple inputs with > pre-determined properties such as Work, Edition, & Cataloging properties > listed at :wikidata:Template:Book properties > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Template:Book_properties> & > :d:Wikidata:WikiProject > Books <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Books>. (*especially > the OCLC #!!!*) While this may be contrary to the way things normally go > into Wikidata, it could provide a format that I believe many librarians > would find more user friendly. I write this as someone who once entered > journal bibliographic data into a minicomputer > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minicomputer>-based online university > catalog about 2½ decades ago. Some means for automatically loading MARC > &/or OCLC data into Wikidata might also be a viable method, too. > > The second would be to implement a citation module for placing data into > articles. The French Wikipedia (& I have also heard the Arabic Wikipedia) > has already done this. It would be truly beneficial to get this translated > to the English Wikipedia, although it would be better yet if we could come > up a means of putting the module on a repository that could be used across > projects. I am neither fluent in Lua or French, so producing an English > version is a challenge for me, otherwise I would do it. > > Here's an example of how the French Wikipedia & Wikidata work together to > produce a citation: > > *Du chocolate : discours curieux divisé en quatre parties* item in > Wikdata: > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23906197?uselang=en > > The Modèle:Bibliographie (bibliographic template): > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Bibliographie > > How the Wikimarkup looks for its use in *Chocolat* article ( > {{bibliographie|Q23906197}} should be at the top): > https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chocolat&action=edit§ion=50 > > What the end result looks like (Du chocolate : discours curieux divisé en > quatre parties should be at the top): > https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolat#Bibliographie > > Yours, > > Peaceray <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Peaceray> > -- > > [email protected] (forwards to) > [email protected] > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Bob Kosovsky <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Great suggestion, Daniel. I think there can should be a greater effort >> to promoting Wikidata among librarians with technical expertise because it >> is closer to what these librarians do (especially among catalogers and >> other tech types). In sessions introducing editing Wikipedia that included >> librarians, I've seen the librarians express greater interest in Wikidata >> than the encyclopedia. >> >> Bob >> >> >> Bob Kosovsky, Ph.D. -- Curator, Rare Books and Manuscripts, >> Music Division, The New York Public Library for the Performing Arts >> blog: http://www.nypl.org/blog/author/44 Twitter: @kos2 >> Listowner: OPERA-L ; SMT-ANNOUNCE ; SoundForge-users >> - My opinions do not necessarily represent those of my institutions - >> >> *Inspiring Lifelong Learning* | *Advancing Knowledge* | *Strengthening >> Our Communities * >> >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Daniel Mietchen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Alex and Jake, for keeping the ball rolling on this. >>> >>> Have you considered including a Wikidata component? In the long run, I >>> expect librarians to spend more of their Wikimedia time on Wikidata, >>> especially around >>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData . >>> >>> Cheers, >>> d. >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Alex Stinson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Hello Wikimedians! >>> > >>> > >>> > We are excited to finally start coordinating among #1lib1ref >>> organizers this >>> > month. >>> > >>> > >>> > If you haven’t yet, we invite you to read the lessons that we learned >>> from >>> > last year’s great campaign: >>> > >>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref/Lessons >>> > >>> > >>> > As with last year, we hope to launch #1lib1ref on Wikipedia’s 16th >>> birthday >>> > in January, asking librarians to “Give a birthday present to >>> Wikipedia, by >>> > adding a reference”. >>> > >>> > >>> > What’s new? >>> > >>> > >>> > Last year we got a lot of feedback from librarians that they would have >>> > planned more activities if “they just had a bit more warning and time” >>> so we >>> > are extending the campaign from eight days to 19 days, from January 15 >>> > through February 3. >>> > >>> > >>> > We hope this does two things: a) it allows for several waves of >>> > communications and people adopting the campaign for local events and >>> b) fits >>> > better with the start of the Spring Term at many universities in the >>> > Northern Hemisphere, where librarians are in demand for various >>> activities. >>> > >>> > >>> > We also noticed last year a lot of social media about informal >>> gatherings: >>> > librarians wanted to learn about Wikipedia socially at physical >>> events. We >>> > think this is a great opportunity, so the Wikipedia Library team is >>> > developing a coffee hour kit that provides enough material to help >>> > librarians coordinate a small gathering, where they can talk about >>> Wikipedia >>> > with their peers and add their one reference. >>> > >>> > >>> > The kit is going to include: a) recommendations for planning, b) a >>> series of >>> > discussion questions, c) easy suggested activities, and d) a flyer >>> template >>> > for promoting the event locally. If you would like to help build the >>> kit, >>> > or a new 1lib1ref logo, let us know. >>> > >>> > >>> > How you can help >>> > >>> > >>> > We hope the campaign offers a platform for engaging librarians in your >>> > region and context to learn more about Wikimedia projects. We know >>> > librarians use Wikipedia for a variety of purposes, but the campaign’s >>> > story--specifically how our references work--becomes a shared >>> foundation for >>> > understanding and entering our community. If you would like to >>> coordinate >>> > #1lib1ref in your area, here are the main steps: >>> > >>> > >>> > Join the Wikipedia + Libraries Facebook group: >>> > https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikilibrary >>> > >>> > Fill out this survey: >>> > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSflWCp9QkNbIZWXCWU0 >>> 2bp_FGCAua4Z6UaBj7P6Gcn1csT-6g/viewform >>> > >>> > Review Citation Hunt -- a volunteer-developed tool that allows for >>> randomly >>> > being offered a citation. Check if your language is supported in the >>> top >>> > right. >>> > >>> > URL: https://tools.wmflabs.org/citationhunt/ >>> > >>> > Report Bugs or request features or language support: >>> > https://github.com/eggpi/citationhunt/issues >>> > >>> > Review Hashtag Tracking -- a way to track edits made through the edit >>> > summary field. >>> > >>> > URL: https://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags >>> > >>> > Report bugs or request features or language support: >>> > https://github.com/hatnote/hashtags/issues/new >>> > >>> > Translate the campaign page to your local language. We want to have it >>> ready >>> > for translation no later than November 10th and will notify you with an >>> > email that it’s ready. >>> > >>> > Begin reaching out to partners that you think will want to participate >>> > during the campaign through a) communications or b) activities. >>> > >>> > >>> > We look forward to collaborating with you! Thanks so much for your >>> help--it >>> > should be a lot of fun. >>> > >>> > >>> > Best, >>> > >>> > Alex Stinson >>> > Jake Orlowitz >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Alex Stinson >>> > GLAM-Wiki Strategist >>> > Wikimedia Foundation >>> > Twitter:@glamwiki/@sadads >>> > >>> > Learn more about how the communities behind Wikipedia, Wikidata and >>> other >>> > Wikimedia projects partner with cultural heritage organizations: >>> > http://glamwiki.org >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > GLAM mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> GLAM mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GLAM mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > GLAM mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/glam > > -- Alex Stinson GLAM-Wiki Strategist Wikimedia Foundation Twitter:@glamwiki/@sadads Learn more about how the communities behind Wikipedia, Wikidata and other Wikimedia projects partner with cultural heritage organizations: http://glamwiki.org
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