I have never considered user-generated content on Wikipedia to be more than
what librarians call a "discovery service".

Briefly skimming an article on a subject l may know little about, I
invariably evaluate the sources rather than the text and hit the cited
references. In my 15-year experience, even the weakest and most apparently
biased articles have at least a few refs that lead to citable sources and
larger literature.


On Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 11:54 AM Merrilee Proffitt <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I completely agree with Kathleen. I would assert that it is a lack of
> nuance around the nature of information sources and the research task at
> hand that has lead educators and others to wholesale "ban" the use of
> Wikipedia.
>
> Whether or not a source can be utilized in a research context depends on
> the researcher, and what information they are supporting with the citation.
> For my middle school daughter doing some investigation on an element in the
> periodic table (as she has been doing this week), the Wikipedia English
> article (or any encyclopedia article) is appropriate for her. For a
> graduate student in chemistry this would not be appropriate, but the grad
> student might (appropriately) cite Wikipedia for some basic definitional
> stuff, just as they might cite a dictionary or something similar. You see
> Wikipedia utilized appropriately in citations all the time -- why would we
> discourage this?
>
> Having conversations about the veracity of online information is tough.
> Wikipedia can be challenging because articles are at various levels of
> development. To my mind, this makes it something that those of us engaged
> in conversations around information literacy should steer towards, rather
> than away from, because a) Wikipedia is widely utilized in a variety of
> contexts and b) it is a great teaching tool for talking about when you can
> trust information online and when you should steer clear. But saying "no"
> to *any* information source without having a discussion about it seems
> lazy. It definitely does not reflect the type of discourse we should be
> having, especially now.
>
> I look forward to more discussion on this topic.
>
> Merrilee
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 9:02 AM Federico Leva (Nemo) <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Twitter doesn't facilitate reasoned arguments. I suppose as usual the
>> goal was to encourage greater use of the references and other
>> meta-content of Wikipedia articles, which are excellent tools for
>> critical thinking.
>>
>> Federico
>>
>> Kathleen DeLaurenti, 26/09/19 17:55:
>> > Hi all -
>> >
>> > As a librarian who uses and supports Wikipedia, I wanted to bring up
>> > some issues around the BuzzFeed article posted today about M-Journal
>> > that has led to some messaging from the WikipediaUK twitter account
>> that
>> > I find concerning. I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to
>> > bring this up, but I wasn't sure where else to reach out.
>> >
>> > For those who missed, a citation cite is not manufacturing journal
>> > articles if a student submits a Wiki article so that it looks like an
>> > "official" citation in their school research papers.
>> >
>> https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/wikipedia-fake-academic-journal?bftw&utm_term=4ldqpfp#4ldqpfp
>> >
>> > Clearly there are some nefarious potential uses here, but what's more
>> > concerning is that the WikiUK twitter account has come forward
>> > forcefully saying that Wikipedia shouldn't be cited in the literature.
>> > Period.
>> > https://twitter.com/wikimediauk/status/1177215917534711808
>> >
>> > I work very hard to improve the cite through my courses and academic
>> > advocacy as do many librarians. It's concern to me to see Wikipedia
>> > undermining its own authority in such a public way in what appears to
>> be
>> > a misguided attempt to deflect association with the MJournal site.
>> >
>> > Would welcome any insight or ideas on how to navigate this discussion.
>> > The entire M-Journal use case exists, imho, because we are still
>> > battling for a critical (not blanket acceptance) view of Wiki as a
>> > resources, and I find this kind of public statement to be very damaging
>> > to the hard work so many are doing to create a quality information
>> resource.
>>
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